Bad, Books, and Clothes: he Swiss are voting on a plan to end poverty forever.
 Step one: give every adult $33,600
 a year, no strings attached.
 There is no step two.
 Photo: Flickr/twicepix
<p><a href="http://suchdreadfullittlethingsweare.tumblr.com/post/174001978257/heroofthreefaces-havocados" class="tumblr_blog">suchdreadfullittlethingsweare</a>:</p>

<blockquote><p><a href="http://heroofthreefaces.tumblr.com/post/168128252579/havocados-hello-missmayhem" class="tumblr_blog">heroofthreefaces</a>:</p><blockquote>
<p><a class="tumblr_blog" href="http://havocados.tumblr.com/post/100527461143/hello-missmayhem-cptprocrastination">havocados</a>:</p>
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<p><a class="tumblr_blog" href="http://hello-missmayhem.tumblr.com/post/88630087898/cptprocrastination-doomhamster-belcanta">hello-missmayhem</a>:</p>
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<p><a class="tumblr_blog" href="http://cptprocrastination.tumblr.com/post/85831300665/doomhamster-belcanta-nikkidubs">cptprocrastination</a>:</p>
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<p><a class="tumblr_blog" href="http://doomhamster.tumblr.com/post/85830788180/belcanta-nikkidubs">doomhamster</a>:</p>
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<p><a class="tumblr_blog" href="http://belcanta.tumblr.com/post/85819962386/nikkidubs-attentiondeficitaptitude">belcanta</a>:</p>
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<p><a class="tumblr_blog" href="http://nikkidubs.tumblr.com/post/85819329546/attentiondeficitaptitude-belcanta-guaranteed">nikkidubs</a>:</p>
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<p><a class="tumblr_blog" href="http://attentiondeficitaptitude.tumblr.com/post/85814008162/belcanta-guaranteed-basic-income-to-every">attentiondeficitaptitude</a>:</p>
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<p><a class="tumblr_blog" href="http://belcanta.tumblr.com/post/84650253321/guaranteed-basic-income-to-every-citizen-whether">belcanta</a>:</p>
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<p>Guaranteed basic income to every citizen, whether or not they are employed to ensure their survival and that they live in a dignified, humane way, preventing poverty, illness, homelessness, reducing crime, encouraging higher education and learning vocations as well as helping society become more prosperous as a whole. </p>
</blockquote>
<p>Wow. Forget raising the minimum wage. This is much much better idea.</p>
<p>The minimum wage could actually drop if we had basic income.</p>
<p>But Americans would never go for it. Miserably slogging through 12 hour days and having businesses open 24/7 is too engrained in our culture.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>“BUT WHERE WILL THE GOVERNMENT GET THE MONEY?” screamed Joe Schmoe, slamming a meaty fist onto the table and getting mouth-froth all over the front of his greying tank top. “You libt*rds all think money grows on TREES!! HAHA!”<br/><br/>“But where will people get the incentive to work?!” Mindy Bindy cried, flapping her hands in front of her face. She’d had a fear of the unemployed lollygagging about ever since she was a child and her mother told her to be afraid of the unemployed lollygagging about. “You think people should get paid for <em>nothing</em>? I work <em>hard</em> for my money!”</p>
<p>“But who will serve me?” grumbled Marty McMoneybags. “Who will make me feel important? Who will do my laundry and cook my food and stand in front of me wearing a plastic smile while I take out all my stress—because I <em>do </em>have a lot of stress, you know, being this rich is <em>stressful</em>—on them?” He paused and straightened out the piles of hundred dollar bills on the desk in front of him, then raised his two watery, outraged eyes up to the Heavens. “Lord, if there are no poor people, how will I know that I’m <em>rich</em>??”</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I laughed. This is perfect! Well said!</p>
</blockquote>
<p>The thing is, while I’m sure you could scrape up a few people who’d be willing to just float by on a guaranteed minimum income? For most people the choice to work would be a no-brainer. “Hmmm. I can get by on 33k a year, or I can take that part time job and make 48k… enough to move to a better apartment, maybe take the family on vacation. Sold.” Hell, most people would want to work simply because it gives one a sense of dignity and something to do with one’s time. (Speaking as someone who’s been unemployed, on extended sick leave, etc. in her time, the boredom and sense of isolation that comes with not having a job is almost as bad as the humiliation of having to depend on other people for one’s survival.)</p>
<p>And with this system, part-time jobs and “non-skilled” jobs would be much more readily available because nobody would need to work two or three jobs just to stay afloat!</p>
<p>Which would ALSO mean that employers and customers couldn’t shamelessly exploit employees the way they can today, because if losing a job weren’t necessarily a financial disaster, more people would be willing to walk out on jobs where they weren’t being treated with dignity.</p>
<p>And if this also applies to students (and it should) then student loans would become much less of a problem, and fewer people would flunk out of school because of having to juggle studies and work.</p>
<p>Far fewer people would be forced to stay with abusive partners, parents or roommates because they couldn’t afford to move out.</p>
<p>And the thing is, all those people who suddenly had money? They’d be spending it. They’d be getting all the stuff they can’t afford now - new clothes, books, toys, locally-produced food, car repairs - and with each purchase money would flow BACK to the government, because VAT, also income tax.</p>
<p>The unemployed and/or disabled wouldn’t need special support any more - which would also mean the government could fire however many admins who are currently engaged in humiliating - *cough* making sure those people aren’t getting money they don’t deserve. Same for medical benefits and pensions. And I’m no legal scholar, but I somehow imagine less financial desperation would lead to less petty crime, and hence less need for police and security everywhere?</p>
<p>TL;DR Doomie thinks this is a good idea, laughs at those who protest.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>reblogging for more top commentary</p>
</blockquote>
<p><strong>They tried something like this out in Canada as a sort of social experiment, called Mincome. What they found was that, on the whole, people continued to work about as much as they did before. Only new mothers and teenagers worked substantially less hours. </strong></p>
<p><strong>But wait, there’s more. Because parents were spending just a little more time at home and involved with their families, test scores increased. Because teens didn’t have to work to support their families, drop-out rates decreased. Crime rates, hospital visits, psychiatric hospitalizations and domestic abuse rates all dropped, as well. More adults pursued higher education. Those who continued to work reported more job flexibility and more opportunity to choose employment they preferred.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Basically, now you can go prove to your asshole family members that society won’t collapse without poor people for you to feel better than.</strong></p>
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<p>*muffled sound of conservatives imploding in the distance*</p>
</blockquote>
<p style="">
I’ve reblogged this every time it’s come around but I’ve never seen the 
results of the Swiss election that the graphic reports. A quick 
websearch reveals June 2016 articles from the NYT and the WSJ reporting 
it was voted down. <a href="http://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.businessinsider.com%2Fhawaii-basic-income-bill-2017-6&amp;t=Njc3OTYxZmVhNTQ4Yjg1ZTFkYTEyYjRhNjE2NTVhNWYzNmNlZjAwOSxSNWk1cWlUOA%3D%3D&amp;b=t%3AUluXTA_SgrDo0CFfULkSYw&amp;p=http%3A%2F%2Fheroofthreefaces.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F163634437213%2Ftank-grrl-hello-missmayhem&amp;m=0">But about a year later Hawaii voted it in</a>. 

<br/></p>
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<p>@nikkidubs I love how you make fun of those valid questions while not answering them. </p><p>If someone would like to tell me where the government will be getting <b>$10,979,362,732,800 a YEAR</b> to just hand out to people that’ll be great. </p><p>($33,600 x 326,766,748 people living in the US in 2018 = $10,979,362,732,800)</p><p>I like getting money for doing absolutely nothing too, but money has to come from somewhere or it’s worthless. </p></blockquote>

<p>“Just give everybody free money and it’ll all work out!”</p>

suchdreadfullittlethingsweare:

heroofthreefaces:

havocados:

hello-missmayhem:

cptprocrastination:

doomhamster:

belcanta:

nikkidubs:

attentiondeficitaptitude:

belcanta:

Guaranteed basic income to every citizen, whether or not they are employed to ensure their survival and that they live in a dignified, humane way, preventing poverty, illness, homelessness, reducing crime, encouraging higher education and learning vocations as well as helping society become more prosperous as a whole. 

Wow. Forget raising the minimum wage. This is much much better idea.

The minimum wage could actually drop if we had basic income.

But Americans would never go for it. Miserably slogging through 12 hour days and having businesses open 24/7 is too engrained in our culture.

“BUT WHERE WILL THE GOVERNMENT GET THE MONEY?” screamed Joe Schmoe, slamming a meaty fist onto the table and getting mouth-froth all over the front of his greying tank top. “You libt*rds all think money grows on TREES!! HAHA!”

“But where will people get the incentive to work?!” Mindy Bindy cried, flapping her hands in front of her face. She’d had a fear of the unemployed lollygagging about ever since she was a child and her mother told her to be afraid of the unemployed lollygagging about. “You think people should get paid for nothing? I work hard for my money!”

“But who will serve me?” grumbled Marty McMoneybags. “Who will make me feel important? Who will do my laundry and cook my food and stand in front of me wearing a plastic smile while I take out all my stress—because I do have a lot of stress, you know, being this rich is stressful—on them?” He paused and straightened out the piles of hundred dollar bills on the desk in front of him, then raised his two watery, outraged eyes up to the Heavens. “Lord, if there are no poor people, how will I know that I’m rich??”

I laughed. This is perfect! Well said!

The thing is, while I’m sure you could scrape up a few people who’d be willing to just float by on a guaranteed minimum income? For most people the choice to work would be a no-brainer. “Hmmm. I can get by on 33k a year, or I can take that part time job and make 48k… enough to move to a better apartment, maybe take the family on vacation. Sold.” Hell, most people would want to work simply because it gives one a sense of dignity and something to do with one’s time. (Speaking as someone who’s been unemployed, on extended sick leave, etc. in her time, the boredom and sense of isolation that comes with not having a job is almost as bad as the humiliation of having to depend on other people for one’s survival.)

And with this system, part-time jobs and “non-skilled” jobs would be much more readily available because nobody would need to work two or three jobs just to stay afloat!

Which would ALSO mean that employers and customers couldn’t shamelessly exploit employees the way they can today, because if losing a job weren’t necessarily a financial disaster, more people would be willing to walk out on jobs where they weren’t being treated with dignity.

And if this also applies to students (and it should) then student loans would become much less of a problem, and fewer people would flunk out of school because of having to juggle studies and work.

Far fewer people would be forced to stay with abusive partners, parents or roommates because they couldn’t afford to move out.

And the thing is, all those people who suddenly had money? They’d be spending it. They’d be getting all the stuff they can’t afford now - new clothes, books, toys, locally-produced food, car repairs - and with each purchase money would flow BACK to the government, because VAT, also income tax.

The unemployed and/or disabled wouldn’t need special support any more - which would also mean the government could fire however many admins who are currently engaged in humiliating - *cough* making sure those people aren’t getting money they don’t deserve. Same for medical benefits and pensions. And I’m no legal scholar, but I somehow imagine less financial desperation would lead to less petty crime, and hence less need for police and security everywhere?

TL;DR Doomie thinks this is a good idea, laughs at those who protest.

reblogging for more top commentary

They tried something like this out in Canada as a sort of social experiment, called Mincome. What they found was that, on the whole, people continued to work about as much as they did before. Only new mothers and teenagers worked substantially less hours. 

But wait, there’s more. Because parents were spending just a little more time at home and involved with their families, test scores increased. Because teens didn’t have to work to support their families, drop-out rates decreased. Crime rates, hospital visits, psychiatric hospitalizations and domestic abuse rates all dropped, as well. More adults pursued higher education. Those who continued to work reported more job flexibility and more opportunity to choose employment they preferred.

Basically, now you can go prove to your asshole family members that society won’t collapse without poor people for you to feel better than.

*muffled sound of conservatives imploding in the distance*

I’ve reblogged this every time it’s come around but I’ve never seen the results of the Swiss election that the graphic reports. A quick websearch reveals June 2016 articles from the NYT and the WSJ reporting it was voted down. But about a year later Hawaii voted it in.

@nikkidubs I love how you make fun of those valid questions while not answering them.

If someone would like to tell me where the government will be getting $10,979,362,732,800 a YEAR to just hand out to people that’ll be great.

($33,600 x 326,766,748 people living in the US in 2018 = $10,979,362,732,800)

I like getting money for doing absolutely nothing too, but money has to come from somewhere or it’s worthless.

“Just give everybody free money and it’ll all work out!”

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he Swiss are voting on a plan to end poverty forever Step one give every adult $33600 a year no strings attached There is no step two Photo Flickrtwicepix <p><a href=httpsuchdreadfullittlethingswearetumblrcompost174001978257heroofthreefaces-havocados class=tumblr_blog>suchdreadfullittlethingsweare<a><p> <blockquote><p><a href=httpheroofthreefacestumblrcompost168128252579havocados-hello-missmayhem class=tumblr_blog>heroofthreefaces<a><p><blockquote> <p><a class=tumblr_blog href=httphavocadostumblrcompost100527461143hello-missmayhem-cptprocrastination>havocados<a><p> <blockquote> <p><a class=tumblr_blog href=httphello-missmayhemtumblrcompost88630087898cptprocrastination-doomhamster-belcanta>hello-missmayhem<a><p> <blockquote> <p><a class=tumblr_blog href=httpcptprocrastinationtumblrcompost85831300665doomhamster-belcanta-nikkidubs>cptprocrastination<a><p> <blockquote> <p><a class=tumblr_blog href=httpdoomhamstertumblrcompost85830788180belcanta-nikkidubs>doomhamster<a><p> <blockquote> <p><a class=tumblr_blog href=httpbelcantatumblrcompost85819962386nikkidubs-attentiondeficitaptitude>belcanta<a><p> <blockquote> <p><a class=tumblr_blog href=httpnikkidubstumblrcompost85819329546attentiondeficitaptitude-belcanta-guaranteed>nikkidubs<a><p> <blockquote> <p><a class=tumblr_blog href=httpattentiondeficitaptitudetumblrcompost85814008162belcanta-guaranteed-basic-income-to-every>attentiondeficitaptitude<a><p> <blockquote> <p><a class=tumblr_blog href=httpbelcantatumblrcompost84650253321guaranteed-basic-income-to-every-citizen-whether>belcanta<a><p> <blockquote> <p>Guaranteed basic income to every citizen whether or not they are employed to ensure their survival and that they live in a dignified humane way preventing poverty illness homelessness reducing crime encouraging higher education and learning vocations as well as helping society become more prosperous as a whole <p> <blockquote> <p>Wow Forget raising the minimum wage This is much much better idea<p> <p>The minimum wage could actually drop if we had basic income<p> <p>But Americans would never go for it Miserably slogging through 12 hour days and having businesses open 247 is too engrained in our culture<p> <blockquote> <p>“BUT WHERE WILL THE GOVERNMENT GET THE MONEY?” screamed Joe Schmoe slamming a meaty fist onto the table and getting mouth-froth all over the front of his greying tank top “You libt*rds all think money grows on TREES!! HAHA!”<br><br>“But where will people get the incentive to work?!” Mindy Bindy cried flapping her hands in front of her face She’d had a fear of the unemployed lollygagging about ever since she was a child and her mother told her to be afraid of the unemployed lollygagging about “You think people should get paid for <em>nothing<em>? I work <em>hard<em> for my money!”<p> <p>“But who will serve me?” grumbled Marty McMoneybags “Who will make me feel important? Who will do my laundry and cook my food and stand in front of me wearing a plastic smile while I take out all my stress—because I <em>do <em>have a lot of stress you know being this rich is <em>stressful<em>—on them?” He paused and straightened out the piles of hundred dollar bills on the desk in front of him then raised his two watery outraged eyes up to the Heavens “Lord if there are no poor people how will I know that I’m <em>rich<em>??”<p> <blockquote> <p>I laughed This is perfect! Well said!<p> <blockquote> <p>The thing is while I’m sure you could scrape up a few people who’d be willing to just float by on a guaranteed minimum income? For most people the choice to work would be a no-brainer “Hmmm I can get by on 33k a year or I can take that part time job and make 48k… enough to move to a better apartment maybe take the family on vacation Sold” Hell most people would want to work simply because it gives one a sense of dignity and something to do with one’s time Speaking as someone who’s been unemployed on extended sick leave etc in her time the boredom and sense of isolation that comes with not having a job is almost as bad as the humiliation of having to depend on other people for one’s survival<p> <p>And with this system part-time jobs and “non-skilled” jobs would be much more readily available because nobody would need to work two or three jobs just to stay afloat!<p> <p>Which would ALSO mean that employers and customers couldn’t shamelessly exploit employees the way they can today because if losing a job weren’t necessarily a financial disaster more people would be willing to walk out on jobs where they weren’t being treated with dignity<p> <p>And if this also applies to students and it should then student loans would become much less of a problem and fewer people would flunk out of school because of having to juggle studies and work<p> <p>Far fewer people would be forced to stay with abusive partners parents or roommates because they couldn’t afford to move out<p> <p>And the thing is all those people who suddenly had money? They’d be spending it They’d be getting all the stuff they can’t afford now - new clothes books toys locally-produced food car repairs - and with each purchase money would flow BACK to the government because VAT also income tax<p> <p>The unemployed andor disabled wouldn’t need special support any more - which would also mean the government could fire however many admins who are currently engaged in humiliating - *cough* making sure those people aren’t getting money they don’t deserve Same for medical benefits and pensions And I’m no legal scholar but I somehow imagine less financial desperation would lead to less petty crime and hence less need for police and security everywhere?<p> <p>TLDR Doomie thinks this is a good idea laughs at those who protest<p> <blockquote> <p>reblogging for more top commentary<p> <blockquote> <p><strong>They tried something like this out in Canada as a sort of social experiment called Mincome What they found was that on the whole people continued to work about as much as they did before Only new mothers and teenagers worked substantially less hours <strong><p> <p><strong>But wait there’s more Because parents were spending just a little more time at home and involved with their families test scores increased Because teens didn’t have to work to support their families drop-out rates decreased Crime rates hospital visits psychiatric hospitalizations and domestic abuse rates all dropped as well More adults pursued higher education Those who continued to work reported more job flexibility and more opportunity to choose employment they preferred<strong><p> <p><strong>Basically now you can go prove to your asshole family members that society won’t collapse without poor people for you to feel better than<strong><p> <blockquote> <p>*muffled sound of conservatives imploding in the distance*<p> <blockquote> <p style=> I’ve reblogged this every time it’s come around but I’ve never seen the results of the Swiss election that the graphic reports A quick websearch reveals June 2016 articles from the NYT and the WSJ reporting it was voted down <a href=httptumblrcomredirect?z=http%3A%2F%2Fwwwbusinessinsidercom%2Fhawaii-basic-income-bill-2017-6&ampt=Njc3OTYxZmVhNTQ4Yjg1ZTFkYTEyYjRhNjE2NTVhNWYzNmNlZjAwOSxSNWk1cWlUOA%3D%3D&ampb=t%3AUluXTA_SgrDo0CFfULkSYw&ampp=http%3A%2F%2Fheroofthreefacestumblrcom%2Fpost%2F163634437213%2Ftank-grrl-hello-missmayhem&ampm=0>But about a year later Hawaii voted it in<a> <br><p> <blockquote> <p>@nikkidubs I love how you make fun of those valid questions while not answering them <p><p>If someone would like to tell me where the government will be getting <b>$10979362732800 a YEAR<b> to just hand out to people that’ll be great <p><p>$33600 x 326766748 people living in the US in 2018 = $10979362732800<p><p>I like getting money for doing absolutely nothing too but money has to come from somewhere or it’s worthless <p><blockquote> <p>“Just give everybody free money and it’ll all work out!”<p> Meme