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America, Children, and Community: Search l 6790 6:21 PM e forum.rpg.net Forum Administrator said: Today 09:39 AM New Ban: Do Not Post In Support of Trump or his Administration The following policy announcement is the result of over a year of serious debate by the moderation team. The decision is as close to unanimous as we ever get. It will not be the subject of further debate. We have fully considered the downsides and ultimately decided we have to stay true to our values. We will not pretend that evil isn't evil, or that it becomes a legitimate difference of political opinion if you put a suit and tie on it. We are banning support of Donald Trump or his administration on the RPGnet forums. This is because his public comments, policies, and the makeup of his administration are so wholly incompatible with our values that formal political neutrality is not tenable. We can be welcoming to (for example) persons of every ethnicity who want to talk about games, or we can allow support for open white supremacy. Not both. Below will be an outline of the policy and a very incomplete set of citations We have a community here that we've built carefully over time, and support for elected hate groups aren't welcome here. We can't save the world, but we can protect and care for the small patch that is this board Policy outline: 1. We are banning support of the administration of President Trump. You can still post on RPG.net even if 8:52 0 LTE ▲ 습 44% a https://forum.rpg.net/showthread.ph囮 Originally Posted by Codename: Omega This is exactly the problem IMO - the problem I find with a lot of people who call themselves progressives" online is that they seem to think the only strategy worth doing is to "ostracise people people whose values are antithetical to their own" rather than discuss it with them or accept that some people just have different views. Sure, in some cases there's not much hope for changing anyone's minds, but to default at "ostracise, humiliate, shun and berate" is not a good approach IMO. Moderator Text: No. You know what? Fuck that noise. Ethnic cleansing is not "different views." Racism is not "different views." White nationalism is not "different views." Dogwhistling that attacks against your political enemies will continue if the media doesn't stop saying things you don't like is not "different views." Putting children in cages is not "different views This is not an argument over tax rates or the proper role of government in education. This is an argument about who will be allowed to exist in America Get the fuck out of this thread. Don't post here again. RPG.net moderator | Please do not reply to moderator admonitions via post or PM. Please direct appeals to the admins You can read the RPG.net rules and guidelines here and a handy FAQ here Eisenhower got elected President for overseeing a war that was ALL ABOUT killing Nazis. We should return to those days. Cessna adobsonartworks: As someone who’s reported alt-right harassment and rhetoric on various social media sites and been told “there’s nothing here that violates our TOS,” seeing what RPGnet is doing is a welcome breath of fresh air. Please, more social media sites need to do this.
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Advice, America, and Apparently: AjA J+ 2 mins AjAJ+ 2 mins #comicCon is underway. With a recent surge in diversifying comic book characters, do you have a new favorite superhero? on is under way with a recent surge in diversifying comic book #Comic characters, do you have a new favorite superhero? Is diversit killing comios? As Aj fanboys but ho. Sorry MARVEL V.P. ADMITS POLITICAL CORRECTNESS KILLED COMIC SALES April 3, 2017 Daniel Greenfield 50 526 While the Marvel-Disney monster has been ruling the box office, Marvel Comics sales have been having serious issues. One obvious factor was trying to force political correctness on readers by replacing Peter Parker, Iron Man, etc with ridiculously politically correct "diverse" versions In a revelation that would surprise no one, comic book readers were not interested in a Muslim Ms. Marvel, a Latino Spider-Man who isn't Peter Parker or the Angela Davis version of Iron Man. And Marvel's VP of Sales made the mistake of admitting that. <p><a href="http://princess-has-a-pen.tumblr.com/post/166223687686/trilllizard420-the1manpizzaparty" class="tumblr_blog">princess-has-a-pen</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="https://trilllizard420.tumblr.com/post/164525613653/the1manpizzaparty-trilllizard420" class="tumblr_blog">trilllizard420</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://the1manpizzaparty.tumblr.com/post/164445569495/trilllizard420-unicornlordart-well-somebodys" class="tumblr_blog">the1manpizzaparty</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="https://trilllizard420.tumblr.com/post/164374984198/unicornlordart-well-somebodys-fucking-lying" class="tumblr_blog">trilllizard420</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://unicornlordart.tumblr.com/post/164374320304/well-somebodys-fucking-lying" class="tumblr_blog">unicornlordart</a>:</p> <blockquote><p>Well… Somebody’s fucking lying.</p></blockquote> <p>diversity in and of itself doesn’t kill comics, but pointless, endless reboots, massive events that rely on you keeping up with 12 given titles at any time, and constant, badly established legacy characters are why comics are failing</p> <p>not to mention splitting up iconic superhero titles among more than one person at once</p> <p>did you know there’s actually 3 people running around with the Wolverine codename at the moment?</p> <p>Let’s take some examples:</p> <p>Riri Williams popped up with no buildup after Tony Stark got murked, but he was apparently monitoring this 15 year old girl teen prodigy never mentioned before in his comics, entrusted with an AI based on his brain patterns and personality to mentor her.</p> <p>You know, as compared to however fucking many characters they could’ve given his legacy to.</p> <p>Also we’re supposed to believe someone as egotistical and self glorifying as Dr Doom would take on the identity of Iron Man?</p> <p>Please.</p> <p>It’s the same shit as Jane Foster as female Thor, with a healthy combination of plothole.</p> <p>Somehow, a human woman who has not been involved with Thor in way, with a terminal disease that was ravaging her body, somehow ended up ON THE MOON without any protection and managed to pick up Mjolnr and was found Worthy by it after the fight where Thor ceased to be Worthy.</p> <p>Like, you know, instead of Sif, a long time companion of Thor and who can pick up the hammer or Angela, who Marvel had then won a recent legal fight to be able to use….</p> <p>People don’t dislike it because it’s “diversity”</p> <p>They don’t like it because it’s weak, pandering writing that doesn’t stand up to internal logic.</p> <p>Now, an example of this done right is when Sam Wilson, aka, the Falcon, became Captain America</p> <p>for one thing, he was actually established as working closely with Steve Rogers for a long time in the comics before he was given the mantle. By Steve Rogers himself.</p> <p>See, at this point, Rogers got rapidly aged cause his super serum stopped working and he was an old man, so he couldn’t do it any more, but he was still around to give Sam advice and support over comms.</p> <p>But of course, until Marvel actually bothers to learn why people aren’t buying their shit, they’re gonna keep making the same mistakes, as long as they’re insulated by the losses of the MCU and being used by Disney as a vanity press, they’ll never learn and lose more ground to DC and the indies</p> <p>EDIT: Also I totally forgot, unrecognizable new brands they try to create.</p> <p>If your comic customers, as in the customers that go in and buy things, if they go “who’s this” and show you a comic, then they’re probably not gonna pick it up. They’re there to buy Spider-Man, Batman, Wolverine, X-Men, Avengers they can recognize, not fuckin Stardude or whatever odd new thing they’re gonna push is.</p> <p>It’s nothing to do with race of sex of the characters concerned, but if they’ve got no brand recognition to support their solo titles, they’re gonna flounder.</p> <p>Not even getting into the alienating, pointlessly political shite like that infamous Mockingbird “Ask Me About My Feminist Agenda” t-shirt schlock stunt.</p> <p>What’s also more damaging than that is a flippant response to criticism or calling their readership racist assholes on twitter or whatever. That’s a really bad look for an industry professional when you’re not even an artist or a writer as someone essential to a comic book.</p> </blockquote> <p>this person forgot to mention how they shoehorn in unnecessary commentary and subplots no one was looking for. it honestly feels like that sometimes spider man stops mid fight and says “did i mention im a gay POC” (hyperbole but kind of true)</p> </blockquote> <p>this, sadly, is Not Hyperbole with America Chavez</p> </blockquote> <p>And the worst thing is?</p> <p>With tweaking and good writing, Riri and America (what a stupid name) could work.</p> <p>But because Marvel is run by incompetent pandering idiots, they’re the worst ideas to ever come out of the company.</p> </blockquote> <p>I honestly wish Riri had been done well because I don’t mind the concept.</p>
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