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The delicate ecosystem of large chain hardware stores: factfiction emiliusthegreat Follow partybarackisinthehousetonight releases pack of dads into home depot* go....be free hotcommunist invasive species encroach on lesbian territory dreaming-shark This is a common misconception because they're such similar environments, but you should be aware that dads are native to Home Depot, while lesbians are actually native to Lowe's. At this point, however, both dads and lesbians have made themselves at home in both Home Depot and Lowe's to the point that trying to separate them back into their original ranges would probably do more harm than good to the delicate ecosystem of large chain hardware stores. ailithnight A properly raised and socialized Dad will be perfectly comfort- able cohabiting with Lesbians. Its not really "encroaching on another's territory". You wouldn't say that about foxes in a forest that also homes bobcats, would you? No. It's just two different species that have both evolved to live in similar/the same environment. As long as they recognize each other as equals, Dads and Lesbians are more than capable of cohabitation. Now, if you were to release a pack of Lumberjacks into a or Home Depot, that's where chaos will reign. Being adap far harsher and more demanding environment, the Lumberjacks would simply push Dads and Lesbians both out and also consume far more than a sustainable amount of resources. It would be like releasing bears at a country club. chequerootlurks As a former timber-harveste... I feel this is potentially accurate in theory. But highly improbable in actuality. Lumberjacks, like most megafauna species generally require more space than the average hardware store, even a big box store could provide. The misconception is that Lumberjacks are a social species because of how they often work and live together. This is a matter of necessity, not preference, and a survival technique for thriving under the Log Boss. A "pack" of Lumberjacks, if not under the environmental pressure of a Log Boss will naturally disperse until they each have a wide territory Lumberjacks rarely fight for territory. One on one, a Lumberjack could drive out a Dad or Lesbian, however the latter tend to travel in social packs. Lumberjacks will passively retreat on the presence of large numbers of people. Kind of like Sasquatch Getting a "pack" of Lumberjacks assembled would be hard enough unless they were forced into a Hardware Store by a LogBoss. In that case, they would already be in a heightened and potentially agitated state far above their natural behavior. This artificial scenario can be likened to a circus animal running amok If it had been in the wild, the incident would not have occurred. Free-roaming Lumberjacks are the cryptids of the Hardware system. They are surprisingly quiet and unobtrusive Please stop labeling Lumberjacks as dangerous roving social predators. They are intermediate level omnivores and remarkably peaceful unless threatened. katy-l-wood As a hardware store worker I can say that this is all 100% accurate. The delicate ecosystem of large chain hardware stores
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watch-your-grammer: jabberwockypie: cozmicpunch: uncommonbish: God I love it when ultimatums backfire As she should have! Imagine asking a man to sell off his inheritance because you are uncomfortable 😂 The number of people in the notes saying “He has a point” or “People would be reading this differently if the genders were reversed” … like If you’re so morally opposed to what the other person does for a living … how are you with them for three years? Presumably that would have been disclosed pretty early on in the relationship, right?  “So what do you do?”  “Well I own a successful business in the adult entertainment industry” You don’t go into a relationship with the idea that you’re going to change the other person to make them “acceptable” to your standards. I’m so happy she dumped him, good for her, absolute goddess: I My [38M] girlfriend [32F] of 3 years owns a pornstore/strip club. I want her to sell it before l propose gfclubowner-3 days ago . relationship-advice-46% upvoted My girlfriend was left a pornstore and strip club by her dad when he died 8 years ago. He left it go to be a shithole, but she poured her entire inheritance and took out some loans to revamp them both. owns a pornstore/strip club. I want her to sell it before I propose gfelubowner-3 days ago . relationship-advice-91 % upvoted It is now a popular, well managed establishment. She makes a decent life, but I have issues and I want her to sell it before of 3 years_owns a/ I will even think of proposing. I decided to tell her that the sexual side of the store and don't think the adult industry is a positive place for anyone. can't tell my strict Catholic parents what she does for a living ub bothered me, and that I wanted her to sell it before I would propose. I made breakfast before she left to go over to the store for the day. She has to put a lot of time into the club. Saturday, we had plans to go see Shazam and have dinner. She got called that a bartender's kid is sick and she ended up working until 4 am due to no coverage. She dumped me on the spot. She said she enjoys her work, loves the adult industry, and has no plans on selling ever. She said she has worked too hard and too long for that sort of "bullshit. This is a regular occurence in some capacity. She just shrugs at me and tells me it's part of being an active owner of a successful business. She ends up working until 4 am at least 4 times a week We don't live together, so we walked through her apartment to gather my things. We gave each other's keys back. She already blocked me on facebook. She is adamant that she will not sell. I need some good points 11:00 AM - 12 Apr 2019 My [38M] girlfriend [32F) of 3 years owns a pornstore/strip club. I want her to sell it before I propose. gfclubowner . 3 days ago . relationship-advice-46% upvoted My girlfriend was left a pornstore and strip club by her dad when he died 8 years ago. He left it go to be a shithole, but she poured her entire inheritance and took out some loans to revamp them both. It is now a popular, well managed establishment. She makes a decent life, but I have issues and I want her to sell it before I will even think of proposing. I don't think the adult industry is a positive place for anyone. I can't tell my strict Catholic parents what she does for a living. She has to put a lot of time into the club. Saturday, we had plans to go see Shazam and have dinner. She got called that a bartender's kid is sick and she ended up working until 4 am due to no coverage. This is a regular occurence in some capacity. She just shrugs at me and tells me it's part of being an active owner of a successful business. She ends up working until 4 am at least 4 times a week. She is adamant that she will not sell. I need some good points as to why she should. Points involving children will not work, as she doesn't want childrern Tl;dr: my gf owns a strip club. I want to give her good reasons to sell. [UPDATE] My [38M] girlfriend [32F] of 3 years owns a pornstore/strip club. I want her to sell it before I propose. gfclubowner . 3 days ago-relationship-advice-91 % upvoted https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship advice /comments/bb1wh7/my_38m girlfriend 32f of 3_years owns a/ I decided to tell her that the sexual side of the store and club bothered me, and that I wanted her to sell it before l would propose. I made breakfast before she left to go over to the store for the day. She dumped me on the spot. She said she enjoys her work, loves the adult industry, and has no plans on selling ever. She said she has worked too hard and too long for that sort of "bullshit." We don't live together, so we walked through her apartment to gather my things. We gave each other's keys back. She already blocked me on facebook. TL; DR: she dumped me for telling her I want her to sell the club Ms. Respex is Spexy @Respexy Follow Replying to @redditships And she came in to work rather than give an employee with a sick child a hard time. We stan a family friendly employer/childfree people who respect working moms watch-your-grammer: jabberwockypie: cozmicpunch: uncommonbish: God I love it when ultimatums backfire As she should have! Imagine asking a man to sell off his inheritance because you are uncomfortable 😂 The number of people in the notes saying “He has a point” or “People would be reading this differently if the genders were reversed” … like If you’re so morally opposed to what the other person does for a living … how are you with them for three years? Presumably that would have been disclosed pretty early on in the relationship, right?  “So what do you do?”  “Well I own a successful business in the adult entertainment industry” You don’t go into a relationship with the idea that you’re going to change the other person to make them “acceptable” to your standards. I’m so happy she dumped him, good for her, absolute goddess
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memehumor: “I’m Not A Bigot” she says, in the midst of a bigoted rant (With Bonus): *meme comparing Ibgt civil rights movement to pre vious womens rights move- ment and illustrating that ey are both important an aren t whinin My only issue with it and why i think they refer to it as whining is because it's always for some groups and not all, all people should be equal not just minorities. That goes for the gay communities and for black and hispanic communities white. In the military we are all mixed and we all get along. They should make all communities diverse Like Reply November 22 at 3:14pm Hide Well its not about diversity. It's about everybody having hts Like Reply November 24 at 9:25pm Well it's not about diversity. It's about everybody having 24 at 9:25pm People would be more understanding if people of all walks of life were forced to live together peacefully, is what I meant I'm sure if people would lose their jobs for treating people wrongly or objectifying them. They wouldn't be so quick to do it. Like the military You can be thrown out for even saying something about someone Like Reply November 24 at 9:28pm Uh.. I feel like we're having two different conversations Reply And if it was about everyone having equal rights here would be no black lives matter movement, numbers are some how more important than lives. Studies show more whites are killed then blacks each year by the police. If it was about all lives and not one demographic and about every life taken wrongfully by enforcement I could stand behind it Like Reply November 24 at 9:30pm If anything going on right now in these communities was actually about equality, we would be saving Christians and not Muslims. We would be crying over the thousands of children that suffocated to death inside their own bodies on gasses their own goverment set on them. If any lives actually were seen as equal. People wouldnt be crying over donald trump and safe spaces and every other thing they can think of Like Reply November 24 at 9:33pm People care more about things that personally effect them and people like them than eachother. In my eyes thats a problem. Like Reply - November 24 at 9:35pm but... that's the thing. in general and in the picture and the purpose of this post, it IS about all rights. it's not like i only support gay rights. i support equality EVERYWHERE. if rights aren't addressed specifically, singled out, attention will NOT be drawn to them and equality (which means everyone) CANT happen. this isn't about exclusivity, it's about EVERYONE having the right to marry. its comparing one civil rights movement to another, NOT saying "our rights are important and screw everyone elses. "it's saying "our rights are ALSO important and WE WANT EQUALITY Like Reply-2 -November 26 at 4:16pm-Edited Like Reply 2 November 26 at 4:16pm- Edited also have no idea why you're talking about blacks and November 26 at 4:12pm to me your argument just comes across as peoples Like Reply individual rights not mattering because they aren't as important in your eyes as other things, and that's exactly the problem. bigotry does exist. it IS a problem. just implying that it doesn't matter doesnt change the fact that people of all shapes sizes colors orientation races whatever deal with it every single day. maybe not where you are, but somewhere. and that doesn't make it any less important Like Reply-1-November 26 at 4:20pm I didn't say it didn't matter but if it did wouldn't it be about all people not just the labels that we and society have given That's not bigotry I just see through the agendas into the fact that all lives matter equally none of these movements are about equality or their wouldn't be sides... And quite frankly its discrimination to the other people not the ones only going to it for people like them. Like- Reply-November 26 at 9:59pm I dont need to imply ignorance or belittling to call it what it is self absorbed and selfish. It should be all lives matter gay and straight lives matter. Babies in the womb matter and god matters Im a Christian I love all people, hate the sin not the sinner. That's what Christianity is not what you see on the damn social network. It's called repentant Also the reality is that saying any lives matter has to be seen as an inequality to all others. So the number of people dying by this or that are more important than all lives dying Thats just stupid 26 at 10:02pm Thee argument is about individuals lives in stead of the better of all lives. Any life taken is wrong, that's either your faith or your moral. Everyone's mad about Muslims yet they shove gay individuals off roofs in their country. It's always about whats wrong here not there ..If you want it to all be wrong it will be Like Reply November 26 at 10:06pm e shouldn't be classified as gay straight black white asian Christian or otherwise we are all just people Like Reply November 26 at 10:07pm You just called yourself a Christian multiple times, but oka y. BONUS You just called yourself a Christian multiple times, but okay Like Yesterday at 4:40pm I am a Christian so l am proud of that Yeste as like as we condem those who stand up for equality and what they believe in, we fail to progress in this nation. Unlike Reply 2 21 hrs Progressivism shouldn't even be in this country nor should marksmanship socialism or any other ism because America is only about thirty years old in retrospect to other countries. Sadly when everyone keeps fighting because they want their needs met thats not a compromise that's not caring about what you take from another group yet fail to care when you want them to care about yours Its fucking bullshit and stupid 17 hrs Edited memehumor: “I’m Not A Bigot” she says, in the midst of a bigoted rant (With Bonus)
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phillesteronabun: flying-panda-cat: I paid £2.50 for the Sunday times, took out the magazine and binned the rest 😂 I’m sorry you paid to listen to a shitty interviewer being rude af: DAN AND PHIL Seen and nerd MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR Above: YouTubers Dan Howell (left) and Phil Lester can now sell out arenas like rock stars DAN AND PHIL A geeky pair of YouTube bloggers have topped the autumn bestseller list with their debut book. Eight million teens are addicted to their channels. Josh Glancy meets the poster boys of the great British vlogger boom THE SUNDAY TIMES MAGAZINE 41 DAN AND PHIL THE WHO? Dan and Phil - their in-jokes and "like" patois are all but impenetrable to anyone over the age of 25 here is an air of hushed excitement outside when I arrive at the arena an hour before the evening in October. And the two twentysomething British men are not rock stars, but gawky YouTube bloggers called Dan Howell and Phil Lester. and Phil have the passion of One Directioners or Beliebers (fans of Justin Bieber), but the relationship is not just one of distant obsession. Dan and Phil interact with their fans, tweet them, answer their questions and take on their challenges. For many of their followers, Dan and Phil play the role of big brother, agony aunt, newspaper columnist, comedian and sex icon combined. show begins. Groups of young teenage girls mingle nervously, cans of energy drink in one hand, iPhones glued to the other. Blue jeans and blue hair abound. Unless you are an attentive parent of a web-obsessed teenager or under 25, you are unlikely to have heard of Dan and Phil, whose online personas are Danisnotonfire and AmazingPhil. But in internet-land they are titans. Between them, they have more than 4m Twitter followers and 8m subscribers to their YouTube channels from as far afield as the USA, the Philippines and Indonesia. The pair have separate channels but also collaborate regularly. The figures don't do justice to their almost cult-like influence. Followers of Dan A voice calls from inside and the girls snap into line, trooping at speed into a VIP holding area, where free Haribo and mineral water are provided. Eventually, two young men walk in and the Toom erupts with screaming, crying, a flood of photos. "Oh, my God, you exist in real life!" one fan shouts. The girls are completely overwhelmed, yelping in excitement. The organiser tells me that fainting is a possibility, and assistants are on hand to They have been around for a few years now. Along with the likes of Alfie Deyes and Zoella they were at the heart of what they call the "great British vlogger boom" of 2013, when several vloggers went from having hundreds of thousands of followers to millions in a matter of months. But until recently, most members of the adult world, who use the internet for ordering groceries and checking the news, have continued to ignore them. Now, though, they are becoming impossible to dismiss. Last month they released a book, The Amazing Book Is Not on Fire, a glimpse into their online world and how it was created. Everyone in publishing had expected Bill Bryson's latest book to top the autumn bestseller list, > "We are nerds. We are losers. People like the fact that somebody like them has the audacity to put calm them down if necessary. This, I imagine, is what it felt like to De the Beatles in 1965, or to be One Direction today: world-famous megastars attracting nordes of feverish young women every time they land in New York or Los Angeles. Except this is not Hollywood, but the Plymouth Pavilions on a grey Tuesday themselves out there" THE SUNDAY TIMES MAGAZINE• 43 it was immediately beaten into second place by the "amazing" book. Their debut sold almost 50,000 copies in its first fortnight. DAN AND PHIL en and Phil are outperforming books by Tom Jones, Sue Perkins and Steven Gerrard. Vlogger books are the new frontier in publishing. Last year, despite controversy over whether she actually wrote it. 7oella's debut, Girl Online, became the fastest-selling debut novel since records began, shifting 78,109 copies in just one reek. The 25-year-old fashion blogger from Wiltshire sold as if she were JK Rowling. Unsurprisingly, all the publishing houses are eager for a piece of this new alchemy. The Amazing Book Is Not on Fire doesn't fit a conventional book format. It is partly the story of Dan and Phil and partly trivia about their lives, along with silly drawings, games, emoji interviews and selfie reels. The Catcher in the Rye it is not, but intelligent children are devouring it nonetheless. To accompany the book they have developed a stand-up show and are touring the country, filling theatres and arenas from Belfast to Brighton. The unlikely princes of new media are taking old media by storm. This is what has brought me to Plymouth, with a number of questions I want answered. Who are these strange internet geeks who are taking over the real world? And how on earth do they do it? WILD AT HEART "In real life we're likely to be watching Come Dine with Me" They brush off my question about what it feels like to be unlikely sex idols by claiming that their fans only fancy them "ironically" T he Dan and Phil phenomenon is undeniably huge, but as I arrive in Plymouth I'm still slightly baffled as to what their appeal actually is. I watched several of their videos ahead of the show. They are quirky and eloquent, a paean to internet wackiness, but they also come across as fairly aimless, full of creativity without direction and smile around them, but it is difficult to believe we are all about the same age. Spending most of the past decade on YouTube has given the internet generation would stop reading printed books were wrong. "This book appeals to all sorts," says Zach, 16, one of only two boys amid a sea of girls. "There are a lot of people I know who them a Peter Pan-like quality; they come across as a pair of overgrown teenagers. "Watching Dan and Phil makes me laugh, it makes me happy," says Shelby, a 16-year-old with electric-blue hair and a pierced septum. "They have a unique connection with their audience. They act humour without any depth. A typical video might see the pair attempt to apply make-up to one another's faces while wearing a blindfold. They often conduct "seven-second challenges", submitted by fans, such as "name three things you wouldn't have tattooed on your body" or "spell Christmas backwards", which really casual with you, like you're all part of they then have seven seconds to complete. At the show, I asked some of the girls what it is they like so much about their idols. The most common response was that they are dorky everymen with whom teenagers can genuinely identify. They seem to provide an online comfort blanket, a refuge from the travails of adolescence. I joined Dan and Phil backstage for a while and found them unthreatening, clean- cut, lovable and slightly irritating. Their clothes are Topman, their hairstyles both fiercely swept Bieber-esque fringes. Their humour is also similar: a fusion of millennial their own special technique for how to paint party: Smartie Artie meets Michael Mclntyre kookiness, "like" patois and David Brentian irony. They work well together, generating a bouncy positivity that makes it hard not to would never ever read a book in their life who have bought this. They've watched the YouTube videos so they know what to expect." Zach is in the long queue to meet Dan and Phil, which involves a hug with the pair, a quick selfie and then a furious session of tweeting, Instagramming and WhatsApping the picture to jealous friends. It's only when I watch the show itself that I understand quite what is going on here. The entire thing is full of in-jokes from their vlogs. Phil sits on a giant model lion, Dan on a llama. The crowd emits an ear- splitting shriek– apparently Dan has a thing for llamas. Then they start acting out seven-second challenges. I'm the same age as Phil, 28, but I have never felt more the same internet family." Shelby is part of the sprawling, multi-platform Dan and Phil online community. She has a special Twitter account that she uses to discuss their work with virtual fans all over the country. "I love Dan and Phil because I can relate to them," says Abby, a 14-year-old fan. “I just like watching them so much. They're my favourite YouTubers because they are more personal, you can relate to them more." Like many of the girls present, Abby has cat whiskers painted on her face. This is a Dan and Phil trademark - they demonstrate appallingly middle-aged. The whole event has the feel of a large children's birthday What I quickly realise is that boring adults aren't meant to get it. Indeed, the fact they don't is part of the appeal. In the > them in one of their videos. Almost everyone is clutching a copy of Dan and Phil's book, proof that those who thought THE SUNDAY TIMES MAGAZINE• 45 same way that pop music confounded the eardrums of mid-20th-century parents, fans of Dan and Phil like the fact that this is their DAN AND PHIL world and the rest of us don't understand. meet Dan and Phil properly the next day at the offices of their publisher. They are 24 and 28 respectively, but when Dan describes my use of a pen to take notes as "endearing", it feels like ve are from different generations. Texplain my struggle to understand what it is they actually do on YouTube. "There is a whole fanbase out there that is specifically passionate about me and Phil and what we stand for" Dan smiles knowingly. “Nobody specifically passionate about me and Phil and what we stand for," he says. understands what YouTube is vet. especially in the British media and public," represent the people who aren't cool," says Dan. "We are nerds. We are losers. People They are understandably coy about their like the fact that someone like them has the ays. "The grandma that has Facebook cees YouTube as this place where there are ints of cat videos. But really it's a Wild West frontier of independent creativity. For the frst time in the world, you don't have commissioning editors and channels and budgets. People are just independently doing whatever they want." Dan Howell, a Berkshire native, is the pin-up of the duo and turns up in a tight- itting black leather jacket and black skinny jeans. Phil Lester is older, a “YouTube dinosaur". He started on the website in the far-distant days of 2006 and was already a regular vlogger when Dan messaged him five years ago to ask for help with his own video ambitions. Both were living in Manchester at the time: Phil with his parents, having just finished a master's in video postproduction, and Dan in his first year studying law at Manchester University. "I wasn't making videos to get an audience," says Phil. "I just saw it was a cool thing that other people were doing. I was just going to talk about my day and whack it on there. It took a year to get 100 subscribers." "Everybody who is at a big place these days has been growing their channel for years," says Dan, who describes his early YouTubing as a "creative hobby with no goal in sight", and claims success came to him pretty much by accident. Things moved faster once the pair began collaborating regularly. Dan dropped out of university and the pair gave themselves a year to see if they could make a living out of YouTube. In 2013 Radio 1 brought them in to appeal to younger listeners and they quickly found themselves reporting from the Brit Awards - but YouTube has remained their main focus until the recent book and tour. "I like the book because it's a physical copy of everything we've done on YouTube," says Phil. "If we die in a meteor strike in 50 years, it will still exist." Phil may have started off as the master earnings, but it's clear they haven't looked back from their decision to try to make a living off YouTube. Estimates put Dan's wealth at £2m. Their main source of YouTube income is simply from the advertising on their videos – but sometimes they also produce sponsored content. This got them in trouble with the Advertising Standards Agency (ASA) recently, when it was decided they hadn't made it clear to viewers that an Oreo audacity to put themselves out there. We spend all our time inside reading Harry Potter and playing video games. We're the faces of the losers at school. That's why Dan and Phil are different to other people, who look perfect, who are mainstream, with the perfect teeth and the perfect hair." They may share much of their lives with millions of followers, but the rest is strictly cordoned off. They live together in a flat in London, but won't say where. They brush off my question about what it feels like to be unlikely sex idols by claiming that their fans only fancy them "ironically". I ask Dan what biscuit-licking competition was paid for by the brand. The ads were banned. Dan and Phil's friendliness recedes for a moment when I bring it up. "Oh, for God's sake." savs Dan. “Was there a controversy? It was another element of misunderstanding, I think." “There was no controversy because there were no guidelines in place," says Phil. "This was just the ASA deciding what the rules should be. Everyone was, like, "Great, now we know what to do." "What we're annoyed by is that people think there was an incident, but the story was that nobody did anything wrong," adds Dan. "The ASA were deciding what the rules are, which is a good and necessary thing." Has the bruising episode put them off doing sponsored content? "I'm in the quite lucky position where I don't have to do a lot of sponsored content to support myself," says Dan. "I can take an opportunity if, for whatever reason, I want to. But there are he thinks about the persistent rumours that he is gay. He references the actor Tom Hardy's plea for privacy over the same issue. "We don't talk about our private lives in any way," he says. “Creatively, we want to be apart from the people who are reality stars. We don't want to be some Kardashian." "In real life, we are more likely to be playing video games or watching Come Dine with Me than going to nightclubs, and they [the fans] know that," adds Phil. The pair are enjoying their tour, not least because they "don't usually spend much time outdoors". Next up they plan to take it to Rio, Manila, Jakarta and America, where their biggest fanbase resides. But what does the future look like? Aren't they getting a bit old for larking about on YouTube? I find it hard to believe that these intelligent grown men aren't starting to find it odd playing entertainer to young teenage children. "Never underestimate the intelligence of a 12-year-old," says Dan, who claims that he doesn't dumb down his content for younger followers. "I'm having such a good time right now," says Phil. "The exciting thing is, no one knows what the future [for YouTubers] is going to be. We're the first ones, we're like the test subjects, to see what happens." "Everything is brand new," adds Dan. "Are the YouTubers going to jump on to TV? Is TV going to implode into nothingness? creators out there who literally survive off sponsored content. So I think it's necessary." YouTube is making them rich, but what do they say to people who find their work entertaining, but ultimately a bit pointless? "It's just wrong," says Dan. "It's completely wrong. It's understandable, people haven't had that much exposure to YouTube. The reason people like me is because I open up about my opinion and my thoughts on everything, from existentialism to whether or not it's right to keep hamsters in cages." "Even in our videos, we have fun in some, but others have advice and messages," Literally, nobody knows. We're in a great position, so we are going with the flow. Confidently." I The Amazing Book Is Not on Fire (Ebury Press £16.99) is out now. To buy it for £14.99, inc p&p, call 0845 271 2135 or visit thesundaytimes.co.uk/bookshop and Dan the apprentice, but in interviews, at says Phil. "A lot of it is reflecting what life is least, it appears that Dan is in charge as he ends up fielding almost every question, brimming with an almost arrogant ebullience about their achievements. "There is a whole fanbase out there that is like in school, or when starting university. That kind of thing, coming from someone who has experienced it, can help people." I wonder what their own explanation is for their seemingly insatiable appeal? "We THE SUNDAY TIMES MAGAZINE• 47 phillesteronabun: flying-panda-cat: I paid £2.50 for the Sunday times, took out the magazine and binned the rest 😂 I’m sorry you paid to listen to a shitty interviewer being rude af
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dipperpines-blog: c-bassmeow: dipperpines-blog: c-bassmeow: dipperpines-blog: c-bassmeow: pxlestine: A British Jewish man stuck a “Boycott Israel” sticker to his Kippah in solidarity with Palestinians. This is very important. Americans especially (but others are guilty) have to realize that being against or criticizing Israel IS NOT ANTI-SEMITIC. Caring about human rights is not anti-semitic. A criticism of Israel is not a criticism of all Jewish people. Many Jewish people (especially in Tel-Aviv and NYC) are EXTREMELY critical of Israel. Get it through your head. Criticism of something doesn’t always mean you hate something or you hate the people you are criticizing.  If you really care about human rights you’d support Israel. Explain please. Don’t worry I’m not like most Tumblr users that will throw a fit at any sign of dissent.  Well thats good! xD For one, the record speaks for itself. Particularly on women’s rights, while no nation is perfect, Israel is #1 in the middle east. Stonings which occur in Saudi Arabia and Iran are nonexistent. Every citizen is allowed a vote. Regardless of race. IN the case of gaza, Israel withdrew when they probably shouldn’t have, to give gaza an opportunity to make something of themselves. So what do they do? Destroy all the infrastructure Israel left behind and fire rockets at Israel. Isrel put up the blockade after that. They blew it. They could have been another Dubai if they wanted. But they chose war. In the recent rounds of conflict Israel has been slandered, when the Gazan leaders use children as human shields. More dead kids= more sympathy. I am not saying that Palestine is not free from blame BUT the nation of Israel was made, despite its good intentions, by taking the  land of people who lived there. That alone is enough to question the integrity of the nation. I agree that Israel has a better internal record for human rights when compared to any other Islamic nation but that is a distraction argument in my opinion: “we don’t stone our women so let us treat Palestinians like dogs hahah hehehe”. That’s like saying the U.S. has the right to occupy Saudi Arabia because all of Saudi Arabia’s neighbors have a bad record with women’s rights. Although it may be true, two wrongs don’t make a right. Israel’s better treatment of women and LGBT people (if we ignore the super conservative orthodox jews who are pretty sexist and hompphobic) is no excuse to have it mistreat others. As for the human shields thing, Hamas and other Palestinian groups labeled as terrorist groups  have indeed  done awful things …as does Israel …. I’m not defending atrocities committed on any side but one thing is certain Israel, by treating Palestinians so poorly is only making things worse for itself. As for the solution. I don’t know. The solution I want is too unrealistic, but that’s a discussion for another day. Zionism is rampant in the conservative circles of Israel, the ruling circles as of now…. it is not good. I am aware both sides have done bad but in my opinion Israel started it, it has the power to make things better, and this is a thorny issue that involves history, religion, and politics  BUT Israel is on land that is not theirs. Maybe it was at one point, but at the creation of the country it was not.   By that argument America should give its land back to the Indians. No. I said it should treat the Palestinians better (you know how oppressive Palestine is right now due to Israel let’s not play games) . That doesn’t mean give the entire country back to them. This in theory sounds like the nicest thing to do but i think it’s still unfair since we now have generations of Israelis who call the country their home. Like I said before two wrongs dont make a right. I personally support a one-state solution which gives the land to both people also it isn’t a solution based on religion or any of that.  But there are many reasons why this is problematic. I am aware of this, but all other solutions aren’t satisfactory either. The way I see it is there are three possible outcomes ALL Palestines go away (unfair), ALL Israelis go away (unfair), BOTh parties learn to live together harmoniously (fair). : ISRAEL ATTACKS BOYCOTT ISRAELI APARTHEID Palesties wpalestcanpigr. dipperpines-blog: c-bassmeow: dipperpines-blog: c-bassmeow: dipperpines-blog: c-bassmeow: pxlestine: A British Jewish man stuck a “Boycott Israel” sticker to his Kippah in solidarity with Palestinians. This is very important. Americans especially (but others are guilty) have to realize that being against or criticizing Israel IS NOT ANTI-SEMITIC. Caring about human rights is not anti-semitic. A criticism of Israel is not a criticism of all Jewish people. Many Jewish people (especially in Tel-Aviv and NYC) are EXTREMELY critical of Israel. Get it through your head. Criticism of something doesn’t always mean you hate something or you hate the people you are criticizing.  If you really care about human rights you’d support Israel. Explain please. Don’t worry I’m not like most Tumblr users that will throw a fit at any sign of dissent.  Well thats good! xD For one, the record speaks for itself. Particularly on women’s rights, while no nation is perfect, Israel is #1 in the middle east. Stonings which occur in Saudi Arabia and Iran are nonexistent. Every citizen is allowed a vote. Regardless of race. IN the case of gaza, Israel withdrew when they probably shouldn’t have, to give gaza an opportunity to make something of themselves. So what do they do? Destroy all the infrastructure Israel left behind and fire rockets at Israel. Isrel put up the blockade after that. They blew it. They could have been another Dubai if they wanted. But they chose war. In the recent rounds of conflict Israel has been slandered, when the Gazan leaders use children as human shields. More dead kids= more sympathy. I am not saying that Palestine is not free from blame BUT the nation of Israel was made, despite its good intentions, by taking the  land of people who lived there. That alone is enough to question the integrity of the nation. I agree that Israel has a better internal record for human rights when compared to any other Islamic nation but that is a distraction argument in my opinion: “we don’t stone our women so let us treat Palestinians like dogs hahah hehehe”. That’s like saying the U.S. has the right to occupy Saudi Arabia because all of Saudi Arabia’s neighbors have a bad record with women’s rights. Although it may be true, two wrongs don’t make a right. Israel’s better treatment of women and LGBT people (if we ignore the super conservative orthodox jews who are pretty sexist and hompphobic) is no excuse to have it mistreat others. As for the human shields thing, Hamas and other Palestinian groups labeled as terrorist groups  have indeed  done awful things …as does Israel …. I’m not defending atrocities committed on any side but one thing is certain Israel, by treating Palestinians so poorly is only making things worse for itself. As for the solution. I don’t know. The solution I want is too unrealistic, but that’s a discussion for another day. Zionism is rampant in the conservative circles of Israel, the ruling circles as of now…. it is not good. I am aware both sides have done bad but in my opinion Israel started it, it has the power to make things better, and this is a thorny issue that involves history, religion, and politics  BUT Israel is on land that is not theirs. Maybe it was at one point, but at the creation of the country it was not.   By that argument America should give its land back to the Indians. No. I said it should treat the Palestinians better (you know how oppressive Palestine is right now due to Israel let’s not play games) . That doesn’t mean give the entire country back to them. This in theory sounds like the nicest thing to do but i think it’s still unfair since we now have generations of Israelis who call the country their home. Like I said before two wrongs dont make a right. I personally support a one-state solution which gives the land to both people also it isn’t a solution based on religion or any of that.  But there are many reasons why this is problematic. I am aware of this, but all other solutions aren’t satisfactory either. The way I see it is there are three possible outcomes ALL Palestines go away (unfair), ALL Israelis go away (unfair), BOTh parties learn to live together harmoniously (fair). 

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zacharyaarronn: I met this boy through tumblr over a year ago. We always wanted to meet up and get to know each other personally because we got along so well online along with skype and texting and calling. I would help him with his boy problems and he would help me with mine. He told me he was coming home for christmas break and the drive was over 16 hrs so I invited him to stay at my place for a few days because i lived in between his home and his college. I fell in love with him the first night we officially met. We started dating the day after Valentines Day and have been visiting each other as much as we can. Yeah we fight a lot but there is no one else i would rather be with than him. I miss my boyfriend, and long distance sucks :( But next week he’s coming to meet my whole family in PA and then we are headed to Maine so I can meet his, then we’re off to RI to live together, find jobs and attend the same college. <3 my blog                 his blog omg :’( : Debnen SHARS "WICKED A TRIUM WEST SIDE STO PLAYBILL PLAYBILL Family Wick SHRS MUSICAL CKE WES Ada Far PLAYB L ESI SH "MU WICKED M VIICYN zacharyaarronn: I met this boy through tumblr over a year ago. We always wanted to meet up and get to know each other personally because we got along so well online along with skype and texting and calling. I would help him with his boy problems and he would help me with mine. He told me he was coming home for christmas break and the drive was over 16 hrs so I invited him to stay at my place for a few days because i lived in between his home and his college. I fell in love with him the first night we officially met. We started dating the day after Valentines Day and have been visiting each other as much as we can. Yeah we fight a lot but there is no one else i would rather be with than him. I miss my boyfriend, and long distance sucks :( But next week he’s coming to meet my whole family in PA and then we are headed to Maine so I can meet his, then we’re off to RI to live together, find jobs and attend the same college. <3 my blog                 his blog omg :’( 

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