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        Ass, Bitch, and Shit: <p><a href="https://officer-k-k.tumblr.com/post/175494202983/libertarirynn-bluebreeze52-libertarirynn" class="tumblr_blog">officer-k-k</a>:</p><blockquote>
<p><a href="https://libertarirynn.tumblr.com/post/175492975579/bluebreeze52-libertarirynn-as-seen-today-on" class="tumblr_blog">libertarirynn</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://bluebreeze52.tumblr.com/post/175492912395/libertarirynn-as-seen-today-on-philly-d-shane" class="tumblr_blog">bluebreeze52</a>:</p>

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<p><a href="https://libertarirynn.tumblr.com/post/175492856546/as-seen-today-on-philly-d-shane-dawson-released" class="tumblr_blog">libertarirynn</a>:</p>
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<p>As seen today on Philly D, Shane Dawson released behind the scenes video that shows not only was Tana aware of having oversold the venue, she was actively excited at the prospect of people waiting outside in the blazing hot sun with no water or shelter, just because it would make her look good.</p>

<p>All of the “good intentions“ arguments are out the window now. She knew exactly what she was doing with this shit.</p>
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<p>Why do people still give this bitch the time of day? The Content Cop about her last year already proved how awful she is.</p>
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<p>But you would not believe how many people still stan her. Even after this shit her fans are all over Twitter like “Tana bby you did nothing wrong!!! People are so mean to you 😢😢😢”</p>
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<p><a class="tumblelog" href="https://tmblr.co/mZHrjydhp9oUbxMGBDJA8rw">@libertarirynn</a> Michael Weiss the CEO of GoodTimes (the company Tana was working with) shit the bed with the planning among other things.</p>
<p> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xFtIsyRvNE">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xFtIsyRvNE</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLFOqYjmroA">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLFOqYjmroA</a><br/></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YLY9P-nIAk">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YLY9P-nIAk</a><br/></p>
<p>you gotta watch all 3 parts. Its really just two, 20 year old kids who put themselves in the 50 foot deep end of an olympic pool.</p>
<p>trust me i don’t like Tana either, she’s loud and just really obnoxious, But she’s WAY too young to do this kind of thing.</p>
</blockquote><p>Oh please spare me that “she’s too young“ bit. 20 years old is plenty old enough to know that hosting an event with more people than you have room for is a recipe for disaster, especially when safety concerns were a big part of the reason you were having trouble with Vidcon in the first place. </p><p>And yes the CEO is a scumbag who deserves just as much hate, but that doesn’t let Tana off the hook. She is literally bragging about people having to wait outside. She knew from the outset that people would not be able to get in and she didn’t inform people of this or make any sort of preparations for them like water or tents. She lied outright about how many people there were and at first tried to make it seem like the only reason things didn’t go well was because a bunch of random people showed up, when that was her plan all along. </p><p>This is not rocket science. This isn’t just “a couple of kids who made some mistakes”. These are grown ass people making stupid, poorly thought out decisions for their image and ego and nothing else. Her crocodile tears do not move me in the slightest.</p>
        

            
            

                
                
                    Ass, Bitch, and Shit: <p><a href="https://officer-k-k.tumblr.com/post/175494202983/libertarirynn-bluebreeze52-libertarirynn" class="tumblr_blog">officer-k-k</a>:</p><blockquote>
<p><a href="https://libertarirynn.tumblr.com/post/175492975579/bluebreeze52-libertarirynn-as-seen-today-on" class="tumblr_blog">libertarirynn</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://bluebreeze52.tumblr.com/post/175492912395/libertarirynn-as-seen-today-on-philly-d-shane" class="tumblr_blog">bluebreeze52</a>:</p>

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<p><a href="https://libertarirynn.tumblr.com/post/175492856546/as-seen-today-on-philly-d-shane-dawson-released" class="tumblr_blog">libertarirynn</a>:</p>
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<p>As seen today on Philly D, Shane Dawson released behind the scenes video that shows not only was Tana aware of having oversold the venue, she was actively excited at the prospect of people waiting outside in the blazing hot sun with no water or shelter, just because it would make her look good.</p>

<p>All of the “good intentions“ arguments are out the window now. She knew exactly what she was doing with this shit.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Why do people still give this bitch the time of day? The Content Cop about her last year already proved how awful she is.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>But you would not believe how many people still stan her. Even after this shit her fans are all over Twitter like “Tana bby you did nothing wrong!!! People are so mean to you 😢😢😢”</p>
</blockquote>
<p><a class="tumblelog" href="https://tmblr.co/mZHrjydhp9oUbxMGBDJA8rw">@libertarirynn</a> Michael Weiss the CEO of GoodTimes (the company Tana was working with) shit the bed with the planning among other things.</p>
<p> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xFtIsyRvNE">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xFtIsyRvNE</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLFOqYjmroA">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLFOqYjmroA</a><br/></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YLY9P-nIAk">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YLY9P-nIAk</a><br/></p>
<p>you gotta watch all 3 parts. Its really just two, 20 year old kids who put themselves in the 50 foot deep end of an olympic pool.</p>
<p>trust me i don’t like Tana either, she’s loud and just really obnoxious, But she’s WAY too young to do this kind of thing.</p>
</blockquote><p>Oh please spare me that “she’s too young“ bit. 20 years old is plenty old enough to know that hosting an event with more people than you have room for is a recipe for disaster, especially when safety concerns were a big part of the reason you were having trouble with Vidcon in the first place. </p><p>And yes the CEO is a scumbag who deserves just as much hate, but that doesn’t let Tana off the hook. She is literally bragging about people having to wait outside. She knew from the outset that people would not be able to get in and she didn’t inform people of this or make any sort of preparations for them like water or tents. She lied outright about how many people there were and at first tried to make it seem like the only reason things didn’t go well was because a bunch of random people showed up, when that was her plan all along. </p><p>This is not rocket science. This isn’t just “a couple of kids who made some mistakes”. These are grown ass people making stupid, poorly thought out decisions for their image and ego and nothing else. Her crocodile tears do not move me in the slightest.</p>
                    
                    

                    
                
            

            
            
        

    

    

        
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        America, Anaconda, and Ass: I had to run into Walmart. I turned around to
 make sure my son was next to me. Instead
 of finding him by my side I found him
 kneeling in front of the missing children
 board praying. C/M)iff .
 #trainupachild
 #amazing
 very
 counts.
 ox.
 RELEASE
 2200

 Kathy Erin
 Oh please why doesn't he do
 something productive like go out and
 look for them
 Fri at 10:53 PM Like Reply20
 LOOK AGAINI
 View 18 previous replies
 Donna Cunningham Kathy Erin May God...
<p><a href="http://goingorthodox.tumblr.com/post/163620722335/libertarirynn-tcfkag-brehaaorgana" class="tumblr_blog">goingorthodox</a>:</p>

<blockquote><p><a href="https://libertarirynn.tumblr.com/post/163620629404/tcfkag-brehaaorgana-winterfells-walls" class="tumblr_blog">libertarirynn</a>:</p><blockquote>
<p><a href="https://tcfkag.tumblr.com/post/163618985123/brehaaorgana-winterfells-walls" class="tumblr_blog">tcfkag</a>:</p>

<blockquote>
<p><a href="http://brehaaorgana.tumblr.com/post/163618122937/winterfells-walls-brehaaorgana" class="tumblr_blog">brehaaorgana</a>:</p>

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<p><a href="https://winterfells-walls.tumblr.com/post/163617263402/brehaaorgana-fromchaostocosmos-chiribomb" class="tumblr_blog">winterfells-walls</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://brehaaorgana.tumblr.com/post/163613725082/fromchaostocosmos-chiribomb" class="tumblr_blog">brehaaorgana</a>:</p>

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<p><a href="http://fromchaostocosmos.tumblr.com/post/163603183253/chiribomb-sonypraystation-kathy-with-the" class="tumblr_blog">fromchaostocosmos</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><a href="https://chiribomb.tumblr.com/post/163589211377/sonypraystation-kathy-with-the-scorching-tea" class="tumblr_blog">chiribomb</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><a href="http://sonypraystation.tumblr.com/post/163585263067/kathy-with-the-scorching-tea" class="tumblr_blog">sonypraystation</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>kathy with the scorching tea</p></blockquote>

<p>Lazy-ass child</p>
</blockquote>
<p>anyone else really disturbed by the hashtag train up a child</p>
<p>no seriously what the fuck</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I suspect a loooot of people don’t know that <a href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2011/10/03/did_the_disturbing_philosophy_of_how_to_train_up_a_child_lead_to.html">“train up a child”</a> is a reference to a book/method of raising children that is centered around regular and <b><i>extensive</i></b> child abuse, usually through beating the child in question. </p>
<p>This image/screencap isn’t amusing or charming. I’m sure people thought it was “funny” because it’s super christian and therefore weird or incongruous with how we think kids should be/should act/alien to our own childhoods, but the reality is that<b> that mom just referenced a book that probably means she beats or starves her son. </b>[Note that the death cases have often been white xtian fundamentalists who have adopted black/African children.]</p>
<p>If you’re not familiar with the Pearls and their book To Train Up a Child, here’s some links, which tend to be from horrified Christian parents. I can’t confirm or deny these are all good <i>websites</i>, but I know these are mostly about horror at the TTUAC method. <b>Trigger Warning for Child abuse and Murder</b>:</p>
<ul><li>
<a href="http://www.parentatthehelm.com/1298/speaking-up-children-trained-to-death-coverage-list-of-to-train-up-a-child-connection/">Speaking up against TTUAC</a> - more links documenting extensive/extreme child abuse, including child murder by parents using the TTUAC “method.”<br/></li>
<li><a href="https://www.babble.com/mom/to-train-up-a-child-teaches-punishment-that-kills-kids/">Babble - TTUAC Book leads to multiple child deaths</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/women/2011/october/when-child-discipline-becomes-abuse.html">Christianity Today: When Child Discipline becomes Abuse</a></li>
<li>
<a href="https://whynottrainachild.com/2010/04/20/quotes-from-ttuac/">Why Not to Train a Child</a> (quotes from the book, revealing that the Pearls advocate beating <i>infants.) </i>
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2013/04/some-quotes-from-michael-pearl.html">Quotes from Michael Pearl</a></li>
<li>
<a href="http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1110/26/acd.02.html">CNN transcript</a> from Anderson Cooper on the Death of Hana Williams/Interview with Pearl. </li>
<li>
<a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2011/11/corpses-dont-rebel-a-former-follower-of-michael-pearls-to-train-up-a-child-reacts-to-the-death-of-hana-williams/">Corpses Don’t Rebel: A former follower of Michael Pearl’s “To Train Up A Child” reacts to the death of Hana William</a>s, from the blog No Longer Quivering<br/></li>
<li>
<a href="https://rachelheldevans.com/blog/the-abusive-teachings-of-michael-and-debi-pearl">The abusive teachings of Michael and Debi Pearl</a> <br/></li>
<li>
<a href="https://libertyforcaptives.com/2014/01/11/to-train-up-a-child-abuser-part-1/">Liberty for Captives: to Train Up a Child Abuser</a> / <a href="https://libertyforcaptives.com/2014/01/11/to-train-up-a-child-abuser-part-2/">pt 2</a>
</li>
<li><a href="https://katiekind.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/when-parenting-kills-what-can-we-do/">When Parenting Kills, What Can We Do?</a></li>
<li>
<a href="http://www.equip.org/PDF/DF230.pdf">“Christian Families on the Edge: Authoritarianism and Isolationism Among Us” </a>by Rachel D. Ramer for the Christian Research Institute<br/></li>
<li><a href="http://thatmom.com/2010/02/17/child-abuse-in-the-name-of-jesus/">Child Abuse in the Name of Jesus</a></li>
</ul><p>etc etc. This post isn’t funny or meme-worthy, it’s a sign that whoever knows this lady should consider calling CPS. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>Listen I know nothing about whatever book that is, I’ve never heard of it in my life and I grew up Christian and I’m still Christian. She was probably referencing, I don’t know, the BIBLE considering the first thing I thought of was that verse in proverbs that talks about training your children to do right while they’re young so they’ll do right when they’re adults but you know whatever. Like I definitely don’t condone any kind of child abuse (obviously) but assuming she’s referencing this book instead of something much more widely known is like accusing everyone who offhandedly mentions making a deal of referencing “the art of the deal” and being a trump supporter. There’s not really a correlation.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I MEAN LIKE…. okay: I’ll admit I had a knee-jerk reaction to this. I’m fine with editing it down. I was responding to someone saying it made them uncomfortable (Jewish bloggers) and I… I mean look, I <i>know</i> it’s a biblical verse. I’ll grant that I perhaps <i>over-</i>emphasized my own personal connection with this specific verse and rampant abuse and child murder. It’s possible she just means raise your kids to be religious, and is an evangelical who doesn’t beat or starve her child. (God willing, that’s the case. I’ve never really heard that particular citation being quite as popular outside of evangelical circles)  </p>
<p>But also…this is a very popular evangelical book on parenting that was linked to the deaths of several children, and you can’t exactly fault me for linking it to news cases that were considered pretty major less than ten years ago? </p>
</blockquote>

<p>In my whole life as a Christian in America, the only context I’ve ever heard the phrase “train up a child” is in reference to that horrific abusive book.</p>
<p>Yes it’s referencing a bible verse, but I would bet that 99/100 times the people using it are at the very least influenced by How to Train Up a Child.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Sorry but I think that estimate is waaaaaaay off. Perhaps you grew up in a very fundamental circle, but the book itself is not that widespread. According to some reports it has barely sold 10,000 copies in the last 16 years. That’s hardly an extremely popular book or grounds to assume that 99% of the time people saying that phrase are referencing it.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Yeah my first thought was the Bible verse, and I even know about the Pearls (and will gladly rant with anyone about them, if you’d like) </p></blockquote>

<p>Yeah I hate fundie garbage like that. But has it ever occurred to people that every Christian on the block would be beating their infants and leaving their kids to starve if these kind of methods were widespread? Here&rsquo;s a thought: they&rsquo;re not. There&rsquo;s absolutely no reason to launch such a heinous accusation of child abuse against a woman for using a simple hashtag of a common bible verse, no matter how corny you think she&rsquo;s being.</p>
        

            
            

                
                
                    America, Anaconda, and Ass: I had to run into Walmart. I turned around to
 make sure my son was next to me. Instead
 of finding him by my side I found him
 kneeling in front of the missing children
 board praying. C/M)iff .
 #trainupachild
 #amazing
 very
 counts.
 ox.
 RELEASE
 2200

 Kathy Erin
 Oh please why doesn't he do
 something productive like go out and
 look for them
 Fri at 10:53 PM Like Reply20
 LOOK AGAINI
 View 18 previous replies
 Donna Cunningham Kathy Erin May God...
<p><a href="http://goingorthodox.tumblr.com/post/163620722335/libertarirynn-tcfkag-brehaaorgana" class="tumblr_blog">goingorthodox</a>:</p>

<blockquote><p><a href="https://libertarirynn.tumblr.com/post/163620629404/tcfkag-brehaaorgana-winterfells-walls" class="tumblr_blog">libertarirynn</a>:</p><blockquote>
<p><a href="https://tcfkag.tumblr.com/post/163618985123/brehaaorgana-winterfells-walls" class="tumblr_blog">tcfkag</a>:</p>

<blockquote>
<p><a href="http://brehaaorgana.tumblr.com/post/163618122937/winterfells-walls-brehaaorgana" class="tumblr_blog">brehaaorgana</a>:</p>

<blockquote>
<p><a href="https://winterfells-walls.tumblr.com/post/163617263402/brehaaorgana-fromchaostocosmos-chiribomb" class="tumblr_blog">winterfells-walls</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><a href="http://brehaaorgana.tumblr.com/post/163613725082/fromchaostocosmos-chiribomb" class="tumblr_blog">brehaaorgana</a>:</p>

<blockquote>
<p><a href="http://fromchaostocosmos.tumblr.com/post/163603183253/chiribomb-sonypraystation-kathy-with-the" class="tumblr_blog">fromchaostocosmos</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><a href="https://chiribomb.tumblr.com/post/163589211377/sonypraystation-kathy-with-the-scorching-tea" class="tumblr_blog">chiribomb</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><a href="http://sonypraystation.tumblr.com/post/163585263067/kathy-with-the-scorching-tea" class="tumblr_blog">sonypraystation</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>kathy with the scorching tea</p></blockquote>

<p>Lazy-ass child</p>
</blockquote>
<p>anyone else really disturbed by the hashtag train up a child</p>
<p>no seriously what the fuck</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I suspect a loooot of people don’t know that <a href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2011/10/03/did_the_disturbing_philosophy_of_how_to_train_up_a_child_lead_to.html">“train up a child”</a> is a reference to a book/method of raising children that is centered around regular and <b><i>extensive</i></b> child abuse, usually through beating the child in question. </p>
<p>This image/screencap isn’t amusing or charming. I’m sure people thought it was “funny” because it’s super christian and therefore weird or incongruous with how we think kids should be/should act/alien to our own childhoods, but the reality is that<b> that mom just referenced a book that probably means she beats or starves her son. </b>[Note that the death cases have often been white xtian fundamentalists who have adopted black/African children.]</p>
<p>If you’re not familiar with the Pearls and their book To Train Up a Child, here’s some links, which tend to be from horrified Christian parents. I can’t confirm or deny these are all good <i>websites</i>, but I know these are mostly about horror at the TTUAC method. <b>Trigger Warning for Child abuse and Murder</b>:</p>
<ul><li>
<a href="http://www.parentatthehelm.com/1298/speaking-up-children-trained-to-death-coverage-list-of-to-train-up-a-child-connection/">Speaking up against TTUAC</a> - more links documenting extensive/extreme child abuse, including child murder by parents using the TTUAC “method.”<br/></li>
<li><a href="https://www.babble.com/mom/to-train-up-a-child-teaches-punishment-that-kills-kids/">Babble - TTUAC Book leads to multiple child deaths</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/women/2011/october/when-child-discipline-becomes-abuse.html">Christianity Today: When Child Discipline becomes Abuse</a></li>
<li>
<a href="https://whynottrainachild.com/2010/04/20/quotes-from-ttuac/">Why Not to Train a Child</a> (quotes from the book, revealing that the Pearls advocate beating <i>infants.) </i>
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2013/04/some-quotes-from-michael-pearl.html">Quotes from Michael Pearl</a></li>
<li>
<a href="http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1110/26/acd.02.html">CNN transcript</a> from Anderson Cooper on the Death of Hana Williams/Interview with Pearl. </li>
<li>
<a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2011/11/corpses-dont-rebel-a-former-follower-of-michael-pearls-to-train-up-a-child-reacts-to-the-death-of-hana-williams/">Corpses Don’t Rebel: A former follower of Michael Pearl’s “To Train Up A Child” reacts to the death of Hana William</a>s, from the blog No Longer Quivering<br/></li>
<li>
<a href="https://rachelheldevans.com/blog/the-abusive-teachings-of-michael-and-debi-pearl">The abusive teachings of Michael and Debi Pearl</a> <br/></li>
<li>
<a href="https://libertyforcaptives.com/2014/01/11/to-train-up-a-child-abuser-part-1/">Liberty for Captives: to Train Up a Child Abuser</a> / <a href="https://libertyforcaptives.com/2014/01/11/to-train-up-a-child-abuser-part-2/">pt 2</a>
</li>
<li><a href="https://katiekind.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/when-parenting-kills-what-can-we-do/">When Parenting Kills, What Can We Do?</a></li>
<li>
<a href="http://www.equip.org/PDF/DF230.pdf">“Christian Families on the Edge: Authoritarianism and Isolationism Among Us” </a>by Rachel D. Ramer for the Christian Research Institute<br/></li>
<li><a href="http://thatmom.com/2010/02/17/child-abuse-in-the-name-of-jesus/">Child Abuse in the Name of Jesus</a></li>
</ul><p>etc etc. This post isn’t funny or meme-worthy, it’s a sign that whoever knows this lady should consider calling CPS. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>Listen I know nothing about whatever book that is, I’ve never heard of it in my life and I grew up Christian and I’m still Christian. She was probably referencing, I don’t know, the BIBLE considering the first thing I thought of was that verse in proverbs that talks about training your children to do right while they’re young so they’ll do right when they’re adults but you know whatever. Like I definitely don’t condone any kind of child abuse (obviously) but assuming she’s referencing this book instead of something much more widely known is like accusing everyone who offhandedly mentions making a deal of referencing “the art of the deal” and being a trump supporter. There’s not really a correlation.</p>
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<p>I MEAN LIKE…. okay: I’ll admit I had a knee-jerk reaction to this. I’m fine with editing it down. I was responding to someone saying it made them uncomfortable (Jewish bloggers) and I… I mean look, I <i>know</i> it’s a biblical verse. I’ll grant that I perhaps <i>over-</i>emphasized my own personal connection with this specific verse and rampant abuse and child murder. It’s possible she just means raise your kids to be religious, and is an evangelical who doesn’t beat or starve her child. (God willing, that’s the case. I’ve never really heard that particular citation being quite as popular outside of evangelical circles)  </p>
<p>But also…this is a very popular evangelical book on parenting that was linked to the deaths of several children, and you can’t exactly fault me for linking it to news cases that were considered pretty major less than ten years ago? </p>
</blockquote>

<p>In my whole life as a Christian in America, the only context I’ve ever heard the phrase “train up a child” is in reference to that horrific abusive book.</p>
<p>Yes it’s referencing a bible verse, but I would bet that 99/100 times the people using it are at the very least influenced by How to Train Up a Child.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Sorry but I think that estimate is waaaaaaay off. Perhaps you grew up in a very fundamental circle, but the book itself is not that widespread. According to some reports it has barely sold 10,000 copies in the last 16 years. That’s hardly an extremely popular book or grounds to assume that 99% of the time people saying that phrase are referencing it.</p>
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<p>Yeah my first thought was the Bible verse, and I even know about the Pearls (and will gladly rant with anyone about them, if you’d like) </p></blockquote>

<p>Yeah I hate fundie garbage like that. But has it ever occurred to people that every Christian on the block would be beating their infants and leaving their kids to starve if these kind of methods were widespread? Here&rsquo;s a thought: they&rsquo;re not. There&rsquo;s absolutely no reason to launch such a heinous accusation of child abuse against a woman for using a simple hashtag of a common bible verse, no matter how corny you think she&rsquo;s being.</p>
                    
                
            

            
            
        

    

    

        
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 make sure my son was next to me. Instead
 of finding him by my side I found him
 kneeling in front of the missing children
 board praying. C/M)iff .
 #trainupachild
 #amazing
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<p><a href="https://tcfkag.tumblr.com/post/163618985123/brehaaorgana-winterfells-walls" class="tumblr_blog">tcfkag</a>:</p>

<blockquote><p><a href="http://brehaaorgana.tumblr.com/post/163618122937/winterfells-walls-brehaaorgana" class="tumblr_blog">brehaaorgana</a>:</p>

<blockquote><p><a href="https://winterfells-walls.tumblr.com/post/163617263402/brehaaorgana-fromchaostocosmos-chiribomb" class="tumblr_blog">winterfells-walls</a>:</p><blockquote>
<p><a href="http://brehaaorgana.tumblr.com/post/163613725082/fromchaostocosmos-chiribomb" class="tumblr_blog">brehaaorgana</a>:</p>

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<p><a href="http://fromchaostocosmos.tumblr.com/post/163603183253/chiribomb-sonypraystation-kathy-with-the" class="tumblr_blog">fromchaostocosmos</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="https://chiribomb.tumblr.com/post/163589211377/sonypraystation-kathy-with-the-scorching-tea" class="tumblr_blog">chiribomb</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://sonypraystation.tumblr.com/post/163585263067/kathy-with-the-scorching-tea" class="tumblr_blog">sonypraystation</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>kathy with the scorching tea</p></blockquote>

<p>Lazy-ass child</p>
</blockquote>
<p>anyone else really disturbed by the hashtag train up a child</p>
<p>no seriously what the fuck</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I suspect a loooot of people don’t know that <a href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2011/10/03/did_the_disturbing_philosophy_of_how_to_train_up_a_child_lead_to.html">“train up a child”</a> is a reference to a book/method of raising children that is centered around regular and <b><i>extensive</i></b> child abuse, usually through beating the child in question. </p>
<p>This image/screencap isn’t amusing or charming. I’m sure people thought it was “funny” because it’s super christian and therefore weird or incongruous with how we think kids should be/should act/alien to our own childhoods, but the reality is that<b> that mom just referenced a book that probably means she beats or starves her son. </b>[Note that the death cases have often been white xtian fundamentalists who have adopted black/African children.]</p>
<p>If you’re not familiar with the Pearls and their book To Train Up a Child, here’s some links, which tend to be from horrified Christian parents. I can’t confirm or deny these are all good <i>websites</i>, but I know these are mostly about horror at the TTUAC method. <b>Trigger Warning for Child abuse and Murder</b>:</p>
<ul><li>
<a href="http://www.parentatthehelm.com/1298/speaking-up-children-trained-to-death-coverage-list-of-to-train-up-a-child-connection/">Speaking up against TTUAC</a> - more links documenting extensive/extreme child abuse, including child murder by parents using the TTUAC “method.”<br/></li>
<li><a href="https://www.babble.com/mom/to-train-up-a-child-teaches-punishment-that-kills-kids/">Babble - TTUAC Book leads to multiple child deaths</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/women/2011/october/when-child-discipline-becomes-abuse.html">Christianity Today: When Child Discipline becomes Abuse</a></li>
<li>
<a href="https://whynottrainachild.com/2010/04/20/quotes-from-ttuac/">Why Not to Train a Child</a> (quotes from the book, revealing that the Pearls advocate beating <i>infants.) </i>
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2013/04/some-quotes-from-michael-pearl.html">Quotes from Michael Pearl</a></li>
<li>
<a href="http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1110/26/acd.02.html">CNN transcript</a> from Anderson Cooper on the Death of Hana Williams/Interview with Pearl. </li>
<li>
<a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2011/11/corpses-dont-rebel-a-former-follower-of-michael-pearls-to-train-up-a-child-reacts-to-the-death-of-hana-williams/">Corpses Don’t Rebel: A former follower of Michael Pearl’s “To Train Up A Child” reacts to the death of Hana William</a>s, from the blog No Longer Quivering<br/></li>
<li>
<a href="https://rachelheldevans.com/blog/the-abusive-teachings-of-michael-and-debi-pearl">The abusive teachings of Michael and Debi Pearl</a> <br/></li>
<li>
<a href="https://libertyforcaptives.com/2014/01/11/to-train-up-a-child-abuser-part-1/">Liberty for Captives: to Train Up a Child Abuser</a> / <a href="https://libertyforcaptives.com/2014/01/11/to-train-up-a-child-abuser-part-2/">pt 2</a>
</li>
<li><a href="https://katiekind.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/when-parenting-kills-what-can-we-do/">When Parenting Kills, What Can We Do?</a></li>
<li>
<a href="http://www.equip.org/PDF/DF230.pdf">“Christian Families on the Edge: Authoritarianism and Isolationism Among Us” </a>by Rachel D. Ramer for the Christian Research Institute<br/></li>
<li><a href="http://thatmom.com/2010/02/17/child-abuse-in-the-name-of-jesus/">Child Abuse in the Name of Jesus</a></li>
</ul><p>etc etc. This post isn’t funny or meme-worthy, it’s a sign that whoever knows this lady should consider calling CPS. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>Listen I know nothing about whatever book that is, I’ve never heard of it in my life and I grew up Christian and I’m still Christian. She was probably referencing, I don’t know, the BIBLE considering the first thing I thought of was that verse in proverbs that talks about training your children to do right while they’re young so they’ll do right when they’re adults but you know whatever. Like I definitely don’t condone any kind of child abuse (obviously) but assuming she’s referencing this book instead of something much more widely known is like accusing everyone who offhandedly mentions making a deal of referencing “the art of the deal” and being a trump supporter. There’s not really a correlation.</p>
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<p>I MEAN LIKE…. okay: I’ll admit I had a knee-jerk reaction to this. I’m fine with editing it down. I was responding to someone saying it made them uncomfortable (Jewish bloggers) and I… I mean look, I <i>know</i> it’s a biblical verse. I’ll grant that I perhaps <i>over-</i>emphasized my own personal connection with this specific verse and rampant abuse and child murder. It’s possible she just means raise your kids to be religious, and is an evangelical who doesn’t beat or starve her child. (God willing, that’s the case. I’ve never really heard that particular citation being quite as popular outside of evangelical circles)  </p><p>But also…this is a very popular evangelical book on parenting that was linked to the deaths of several children, and you can’t exactly fault me for linking it to news cases that were considered pretty major less than ten years ago? </p></blockquote>

<p>In my whole life as a Christian in America, the only context I’ve ever heard the phrase “train up a child” is in reference to that horrific abusive book.</p><p>Yes it’s referencing a bible verse, but I would bet that 99/100 times the people using it are at the very least influenced by How to Train Up a Child.</p></blockquote>

<p>Sorry but I think that estimate is waaaaaaay off. Perhaps you grew up in a very fundamental circle, but the book itself is not that widespread. According to some reports it has barely sold 10,000 copies in the last 16 years. That&rsquo;s hardly an extremely popular book or grounds to assume that 99% of the time people saying that phrase are referencing it.</p>
        

            
            

                
                
                    America, Anaconda, and Ass: I had to run into Walmart. I turned around to
 make sure my son was next to me. Instead
 of finding him by my side I found him
 kneeling in front of the missing children
 board praying. C/M)iff .
 #trainupachild
 #amazing
 very
 counts.
 ox.
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 Kathy Erin
 Oh please why doesn't he do
 something productive like go out and
 look for them
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 Donna Cunningham Kathy Erin May God...
<p><a href="https://tcfkag.tumblr.com/post/163618985123/brehaaorgana-winterfells-walls" class="tumblr_blog">tcfkag</a>:</p>

<blockquote><p><a href="http://brehaaorgana.tumblr.com/post/163618122937/winterfells-walls-brehaaorgana" class="tumblr_blog">brehaaorgana</a>:</p>

<blockquote><p><a href="https://winterfells-walls.tumblr.com/post/163617263402/brehaaorgana-fromchaostocosmos-chiribomb" class="tumblr_blog">winterfells-walls</a>:</p><blockquote>
<p><a href="http://brehaaorgana.tumblr.com/post/163613725082/fromchaostocosmos-chiribomb" class="tumblr_blog">brehaaorgana</a>:</p>

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<p><a href="http://fromchaostocosmos.tumblr.com/post/163603183253/chiribomb-sonypraystation-kathy-with-the" class="tumblr_blog">fromchaostocosmos</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="https://chiribomb.tumblr.com/post/163589211377/sonypraystation-kathy-with-the-scorching-tea" class="tumblr_blog">chiribomb</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><a href="http://sonypraystation.tumblr.com/post/163585263067/kathy-with-the-scorching-tea" class="tumblr_blog">sonypraystation</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>kathy with the scorching tea</p></blockquote>

<p>Lazy-ass child</p>
</blockquote>
<p>anyone else really disturbed by the hashtag train up a child</p>
<p>no seriously what the fuck</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I suspect a loooot of people don’t know that <a href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2011/10/03/did_the_disturbing_philosophy_of_how_to_train_up_a_child_lead_to.html">“train up a child”</a> is a reference to a book/method of raising children that is centered around regular and <b><i>extensive</i></b> child abuse, usually through beating the child in question. </p>
<p>This image/screencap isn’t amusing or charming. I’m sure people thought it was “funny” because it’s super christian and therefore weird or incongruous with how we think kids should be/should act/alien to our own childhoods, but the reality is that<b> that mom just referenced a book that probably means she beats or starves her son. </b>[Note that the death cases have often been white xtian fundamentalists who have adopted black/African children.]</p>
<p>If you’re not familiar with the Pearls and their book To Train Up a Child, here’s some links, which tend to be from horrified Christian parents. I can’t confirm or deny these are all good <i>websites</i>, but I know these are mostly about horror at the TTUAC method. <b>Trigger Warning for Child abuse and Murder</b>:</p>
<ul><li>
<a href="http://www.parentatthehelm.com/1298/speaking-up-children-trained-to-death-coverage-list-of-to-train-up-a-child-connection/">Speaking up against TTUAC</a> - more links documenting extensive/extreme child abuse, including child murder by parents using the TTUAC “method.”<br/></li>
<li><a href="https://www.babble.com/mom/to-train-up-a-child-teaches-punishment-that-kills-kids/">Babble - TTUAC Book leads to multiple child deaths</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/women/2011/october/when-child-discipline-becomes-abuse.html">Christianity Today: When Child Discipline becomes Abuse</a></li>
<li>
<a href="https://whynottrainachild.com/2010/04/20/quotes-from-ttuac/">Why Not to Train a Child</a> (quotes from the book, revealing that the Pearls advocate beating <i>infants.) </i>
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2013/04/some-quotes-from-michael-pearl.html">Quotes from Michael Pearl</a></li>
<li>
<a href="http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1110/26/acd.02.html">CNN transcript</a> from Anderson Cooper on the Death of Hana Williams/Interview with Pearl. </li>
<li>
<a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2011/11/corpses-dont-rebel-a-former-follower-of-michael-pearls-to-train-up-a-child-reacts-to-the-death-of-hana-williams/">Corpses Don’t Rebel: A former follower of Michael Pearl’s “To Train Up A Child” reacts to the death of Hana William</a>s, from the blog No Longer Quivering<br/></li>
<li>
<a href="https://rachelheldevans.com/blog/the-abusive-teachings-of-michael-and-debi-pearl">The abusive teachings of Michael and Debi Pearl</a> <br/></li>
<li>
<a href="https://libertyforcaptives.com/2014/01/11/to-train-up-a-child-abuser-part-1/">Liberty for Captives: to Train Up a Child Abuser</a> / <a href="https://libertyforcaptives.com/2014/01/11/to-train-up-a-child-abuser-part-2/">pt 2</a>
</li>
<li><a href="https://katiekind.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/when-parenting-kills-what-can-we-do/">When Parenting Kills, What Can We Do?</a></li>
<li>
<a href="http://www.equip.org/PDF/DF230.pdf">“Christian Families on the Edge: Authoritarianism and Isolationism Among Us” </a>by Rachel D. Ramer for the Christian Research Institute<br/></li>
<li><a href="http://thatmom.com/2010/02/17/child-abuse-in-the-name-of-jesus/">Child Abuse in the Name of Jesus</a></li>
</ul><p>etc etc. This post isn’t funny or meme-worthy, it’s a sign that whoever knows this lady should consider calling CPS. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>Listen I know nothing about whatever book that is, I’ve never heard of it in my life and I grew up Christian and I’m still Christian. She was probably referencing, I don’t know, the BIBLE considering the first thing I thought of was that verse in proverbs that talks about training your children to do right while they’re young so they’ll do right when they’re adults but you know whatever. Like I definitely don’t condone any kind of child abuse (obviously) but assuming she’s referencing this book instead of something much more widely known is like accusing everyone who offhandedly mentions making a deal of referencing “the art of the deal” and being a trump supporter. There’s not really a correlation.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I MEAN LIKE…. okay: I’ll admit I had a knee-jerk reaction to this. I’m fine with editing it down. I was responding to someone saying it made them uncomfortable (Jewish bloggers) and I… I mean look, I <i>know</i> it’s a biblical verse. I’ll grant that I perhaps <i>over-</i>emphasized my own personal connection with this specific verse and rampant abuse and child murder. It’s possible she just means raise your kids to be religious, and is an evangelical who doesn’t beat or starve her child. (God willing, that’s the case. I’ve never really heard that particular citation being quite as popular outside of evangelical circles)  </p><p>But also…this is a very popular evangelical book on parenting that was linked to the deaths of several children, and you can’t exactly fault me for linking it to news cases that were considered pretty major less than ten years ago? </p></blockquote>

<p>In my whole life as a Christian in America, the only context I’ve ever heard the phrase “train up a child” is in reference to that horrific abusive book.</p><p>Yes it’s referencing a bible verse, but I would bet that 99/100 times the people using it are at the very least influenced by How to Train Up a Child.</p></blockquote>

<p>Sorry but I think that estimate is waaaaaaay off. Perhaps you grew up in a very fundamental circle, but the book itself is not that widespread. According to some reports it has barely sold 10,000 copies in the last 16 years. That&rsquo;s hardly an extremely popular book or grounds to assume that 99% of the time people saying that phrase are referencing it.</p>
                    
                
            

            
            
        

    

    

        
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        Ass, Children, and cnn.com: I had to run into Walmart. I turned around to
 make sure my son was next to me. Instead
 of finding him by my side I found him
 kneeling in front of the missing children
 board praying. C/M)iff .
 #trainupachild
 #amazing
 very
 counts.
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 2200

 Kathy Erin
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 something productive like go out and
 look for them
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 LOOK AGAINI
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<p><a href="http://brehaaorgana.tumblr.com/post/163618122937/winterfells-walls-brehaaorgana" class="tumblr_blog">brehaaorgana</a>:</p><blockquote>
<p><a href="https://winterfells-walls.tumblr.com/post/163617263402/brehaaorgana-fromchaostocosmos-chiribomb" class="tumblr_blog">winterfells-walls</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://brehaaorgana.tumblr.com/post/163613725082/fromchaostocosmos-chiribomb" class="tumblr_blog">brehaaorgana</a>:</p>

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<p><a href="http://fromchaostocosmos.tumblr.com/post/163603183253/chiribomb-sonypraystation-kathy-with-the" class="tumblr_blog">fromchaostocosmos</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="https://chiribomb.tumblr.com/post/163589211377/sonypraystation-kathy-with-the-scorching-tea" class="tumblr_blog">chiribomb</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://sonypraystation.tumblr.com/post/163585263067/kathy-with-the-scorching-tea" class="tumblr_blog">sonypraystation</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>kathy with the scorching tea</p></blockquote>

<p>Lazy-ass child</p>
</blockquote>
<p>anyone else really disturbed by the hashtag train up a child</p>
<p>no seriously what the fuck</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I suspect a loooot of people don’t know that <a href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2011/10/03/did_the_disturbing_philosophy_of_how_to_train_up_a_child_lead_to.html">“train up a child”</a> is a reference to a book/method of raising children that is centered around regular and <b><i>extensive</i></b> child abuse, usually through beating the child in question. </p>
<p>This image/screencap isn’t amusing or charming. I’m sure people thought it was “funny” because it’s super christian and therefore weird or incongruous with how we think kids should be/should act/alien to our own childhoods, but the reality is that<b> that mom just referenced a book that probably means she beats or starves her son. </b>[Note that the death cases have often been white xtian fundamentalists who have adopted black/African children.]</p>
<p>If you’re not familiar with the Pearls and their book To Train Up a Child, here’s some links, which tend to be from horrified Christian parents. I can’t confirm or deny these are all good <i>websites</i>, but I know these are mostly about horror at the TTUAC method. <b>Trigger Warning for Child abuse and Murder</b>:</p>
<ul><li>
<a href="http://www.parentatthehelm.com/1298/speaking-up-children-trained-to-death-coverage-list-of-to-train-up-a-child-connection/">Speaking up against TTUAC</a> - more links documenting extensive/extreme child abuse, including child murder by parents using the TTUAC “method.”<br/></li>
<li><a href="https://www.babble.com/mom/to-train-up-a-child-teaches-punishment-that-kills-kids/">Babble - TTUAC Book leads to multiple child deaths</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/women/2011/october/when-child-discipline-becomes-abuse.html">Christianity Today: When Child Discipline becomes Abuse</a></li>
<li>
<a href="https://whynottrainachild.com/2010/04/20/quotes-from-ttuac/">Why Not to Train a Child</a> (quotes from the book, revealing that the Pearls advocate beating <i>infants.) </i>
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2013/04/some-quotes-from-michael-pearl.html">Quotes from Michael Pearl</a></li>
<li>
<a href="http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1110/26/acd.02.html">CNN transcript</a> from Anderson Cooper on the Death of Hana Williams/Interview with Pearl. </li>
<li>
<a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2011/11/corpses-dont-rebel-a-former-follower-of-michael-pearls-to-train-up-a-child-reacts-to-the-death-of-hana-williams/">Corpses Don’t Rebel: A former follower of Michael Pearl’s “To Train Up A Child” reacts to the death of Hana William</a>s, from the blog No Longer Quivering<br/></li>
<li>
<a href="https://rachelheldevans.com/blog/the-abusive-teachings-of-michael-and-debi-pearl">The abusive teachings of Michael and Debi Pearl</a> <br/></li>
<li>
<a href="https://libertyforcaptives.com/2014/01/11/to-train-up-a-child-abuser-part-1/">Liberty for Captives: to Train Up a Child Abuser</a> / <a href="https://libertyforcaptives.com/2014/01/11/to-train-up-a-child-abuser-part-2/">pt 2</a>
</li>
<li><a href="https://katiekind.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/when-parenting-kills-what-can-we-do/">When Parenting Kills, What Can We Do?</a></li>
<li>
<a href="http://www.equip.org/PDF/DF230.pdf">“Christian Families on the Edge: Authoritarianism and Isolationism Among Us” </a>by Rachel D. Ramer for the Christian Research Institute<br/></li>
<li><a href="http://thatmom.com/2010/02/17/child-abuse-in-the-name-of-jesus/">Child Abuse in the Name of Jesus</a></li>
</ul><p>etc etc. This post isn’t funny or meme-worthy, it’s a sign that whoever knows this lady should consider calling CPS. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>Listen I know nothing about whatever book that is, I’ve never heard of it in my life and I grew up Christian and I’m still Christian. She was probably referencing, I don’t know, the BIBLE considering the first thing I thought of was that verse in proverbs that talks about training your children to do right while they’re young so they’ll do right when they’re adults but you know whatever. Like I definitely don’t condone any kind of child abuse (obviously) but assuming she’s referencing this book instead of something much more widely known is like accusing everyone who offhandedly mentions making a deal of referencing “the art of the deal” and being a trump supporter. There’s not really a correlation.</p>
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<p>I MEAN LIKE…. okay: I’ll admit I had a knee-jerk reaction to this. I’m fine with editing it down. I was responding to someone saying it made them uncomfortable (Jewish bloggers) and I… I mean look, I <i>know</i> it’s a biblical verse. I’ll grant that I perhaps <i>over-</i>emphasized my own personal connection with this specific verse and rampant abuse and child murder. It’s possible she just means raise your kids to be religious, and is an evangelical who doesn’t beat or starve her child. (God willing, that’s the case. I’ve never really heard that particular citation being quite as popular outside of evangelical circles)  </p>
<p>But also…this is a very popular evangelical book on parenting that was linked to the deaths of several children, and you can’t exactly fault me for linking it to news cases that were considered pretty major less than ten years ago? </p>
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<p>I’ve grown up as evangelical as it gets and I’ve never heard of this book. I’m not saying it’s not popular in some circles, but I have never experienced it and I grew up homeschooled and surrounded by other evangelical homeschoolers and none of them believe in beating their infants so maybe this isn’t as widespread as you’re thinking but idk. At any rate I hardly think it’s fair to accuse the woman of child abuse simply because she hashtaged a Bible Verse that also happens to be the name of a stupid book.</p>
        

            
            

                
                
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<p><a href="http://brehaaorgana.tumblr.com/post/163618122937/winterfells-walls-brehaaorgana" class="tumblr_blog">brehaaorgana</a>:</p><blockquote>
<p><a href="https://winterfells-walls.tumblr.com/post/163617263402/brehaaorgana-fromchaostocosmos-chiribomb" class="tumblr_blog">winterfells-walls</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://brehaaorgana.tumblr.com/post/163613725082/fromchaostocosmos-chiribomb" class="tumblr_blog">brehaaorgana</a>:</p>

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<p><a href="http://fromchaostocosmos.tumblr.com/post/163603183253/chiribomb-sonypraystation-kathy-with-the" class="tumblr_blog">fromchaostocosmos</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="https://chiribomb.tumblr.com/post/163589211377/sonypraystation-kathy-with-the-scorching-tea" class="tumblr_blog">chiribomb</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://sonypraystation.tumblr.com/post/163585263067/kathy-with-the-scorching-tea" class="tumblr_blog">sonypraystation</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>kathy with the scorching tea</p></blockquote>

<p>Lazy-ass child</p>
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<p>anyone else really disturbed by the hashtag train up a child</p>
<p>no seriously what the fuck</p>
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<p>I suspect a loooot of people don’t know that <a href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2011/10/03/did_the_disturbing_philosophy_of_how_to_train_up_a_child_lead_to.html">“train up a child”</a> is a reference to a book/method of raising children that is centered around regular and <b><i>extensive</i></b> child abuse, usually through beating the child in question. </p>
<p>This image/screencap isn’t amusing or charming. I’m sure people thought it was “funny” because it’s super christian and therefore weird or incongruous with how we think kids should be/should act/alien to our own childhoods, but the reality is that<b> that mom just referenced a book that probably means she beats or starves her son. </b>[Note that the death cases have often been white xtian fundamentalists who have adopted black/African children.]</p>
<p>If you’re not familiar with the Pearls and their book To Train Up a Child, here’s some links, which tend to be from horrified Christian parents. I can’t confirm or deny these are all good <i>websites</i>, but I know these are mostly about horror at the TTUAC method. <b>Trigger Warning for Child abuse and Murder</b>:</p>
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<a href="http://www.parentatthehelm.com/1298/speaking-up-children-trained-to-death-coverage-list-of-to-train-up-a-child-connection/">Speaking up against TTUAC</a> - more links documenting extensive/extreme child abuse, including child murder by parents using the TTUAC “method.”<br/></li>
<li><a href="https://www.babble.com/mom/to-train-up-a-child-teaches-punishment-that-kills-kids/">Babble - TTUAC Book leads to multiple child deaths</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/women/2011/october/when-child-discipline-becomes-abuse.html">Christianity Today: When Child Discipline becomes Abuse</a></li>
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<a href="https://whynottrainachild.com/2010/04/20/quotes-from-ttuac/">Why Not to Train a Child</a> (quotes from the book, revealing that the Pearls advocate beating <i>infants.) </i>
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<li><a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2013/04/some-quotes-from-michael-pearl.html">Quotes from Michael Pearl</a></li>
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<a href="http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1110/26/acd.02.html">CNN transcript</a> from Anderson Cooper on the Death of Hana Williams/Interview with Pearl. </li>
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<a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2011/11/corpses-dont-rebel-a-former-follower-of-michael-pearls-to-train-up-a-child-reacts-to-the-death-of-hana-williams/">Corpses Don’t Rebel: A former follower of Michael Pearl’s “To Train Up A Child” reacts to the death of Hana William</a>s, from the blog No Longer Quivering<br/></li>
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<a href="https://rachelheldevans.com/blog/the-abusive-teachings-of-michael-and-debi-pearl">The abusive teachings of Michael and Debi Pearl</a> <br/></li>
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<a href="https://libertyforcaptives.com/2014/01/11/to-train-up-a-child-abuser-part-1/">Liberty for Captives: to Train Up a Child Abuser</a> / <a href="https://libertyforcaptives.com/2014/01/11/to-train-up-a-child-abuser-part-2/">pt 2</a>
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<li><a href="https://katiekind.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/when-parenting-kills-what-can-we-do/">When Parenting Kills, What Can We Do?</a></li>
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<a href="http://www.equip.org/PDF/DF230.pdf">“Christian Families on the Edge: Authoritarianism and Isolationism Among Us” </a>by Rachel D. Ramer for the Christian Research Institute<br/></li>
<li><a href="http://thatmom.com/2010/02/17/child-abuse-in-the-name-of-jesus/">Child Abuse in the Name of Jesus</a></li>
</ul><p>etc etc. This post isn’t funny or meme-worthy, it’s a sign that whoever knows this lady should consider calling CPS. </p>
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<p>Listen I know nothing about whatever book that is, I’ve never heard of it in my life and I grew up Christian and I’m still Christian. She was probably referencing, I don’t know, the BIBLE considering the first thing I thought of was that verse in proverbs that talks about training your children to do right while they’re young so they’ll do right when they’re adults but you know whatever. Like I definitely don’t condone any kind of child abuse (obviously) but assuming she’s referencing this book instead of something much more widely known is like accusing everyone who offhandedly mentions making a deal of referencing “the art of the deal” and being a trump supporter. There’s not really a correlation.</p>
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<p>I MEAN LIKE…. okay: I’ll admit I had a knee-jerk reaction to this. I’m fine with editing it down. I was responding to someone saying it made them uncomfortable (Jewish bloggers) and I… I mean look, I <i>know</i> it’s a biblical verse. I’ll grant that I perhaps <i>over-</i>emphasized my own personal connection with this specific verse and rampant abuse and child murder. It’s possible she just means raise your kids to be religious, and is an evangelical who doesn’t beat or starve her child. (God willing, that’s the case. I’ve never really heard that particular citation being quite as popular outside of evangelical circles)  </p>
<p>But also…this is a very popular evangelical book on parenting that was linked to the deaths of several children, and you can’t exactly fault me for linking it to news cases that were considered pretty major less than ten years ago? </p>
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<p>I’ve grown up as evangelical as it gets and I’ve never heard of this book. I’m not saying it’s not popular in some circles, but I have never experienced it and I grew up homeschooled and surrounded by other evangelical homeschoolers and none of them believe in beating their infants so maybe this isn’t as widespread as you’re thinking but idk. At any rate I hardly think it’s fair to accuse the woman of child abuse simply because she hashtaged a Bible Verse that also happens to be the name of a stupid book.</p>
                    
                
            

            
            
        

    

    

        
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