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disadventures: divestedblackwoman: corvidaezero: cagzzzilla: korra: the daria writers really did that Call me by your name THAT’S THE POINT THOUGH. They’re children.  They’re literally students sitting in class.  They’re 14, maybe 15 years old (I can’t remember which season specifically this is from). That’s what grooming is.  An adult, who is fully aware of what they’re doing, taking advantage of a teenager or a child and manipulating them or brainwashing them because they’re too young to actually understand what’s happening. Tiffany thinks he’s talking about gardening.  And even when Quinn is relating and thinking back on the story, she still doesn’t really understand what was going on.  It wasn’t until her older sister and mom could process the scene through their adult brains that consequences were had. It shouldn’t be the responsibility of children to recognize when they’re being groomed/gaslit/manipulated/etc. ^^^^^ This is exactly why young girls can never be “fast.” It’s not possible. They were either taken advantage of or groomed. @classy-asthmatic 🙃: disadventures: divestedblackwoman: corvidaezero: cagzzzilla: korra: the daria writers really did that Call me by your name THAT’S THE POINT THOUGH. They’re children.  They’re literally students sitting in class.  They’re 14, maybe 15 years old (I can’t remember which season specifically this is from). That’s what grooming is.  An adult, who is fully aware of what they’re doing, taking advantage of a teenager or a child and manipulating them or brainwashing them because they’re too young to actually understand what’s happening. Tiffany thinks he’s talking about gardening.  And even when Quinn is relating and thinking back on the story, she still doesn’t really understand what was going on.  It wasn’t until her older sister and mom could process the scene through their adult brains that consequences were had. It shouldn’t be the responsibility of children to recognize when they’re being groomed/gaslit/manipulated/etc. ^^^^^ This is exactly why young girls can never be “fast.” It’s not possible. They were either taken advantage of or groomed. @classy-asthmatic 🙃
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I bought a bird feeder. I hung it on my back porch and filled it with seed. What a beauty of a bird feeder it was, as I filled it lovingly with seed. Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the continuous flow of free and easily accessible food. But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue. Then came the crap. It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the chairs, the table ...everywhere! Then some of the birds turned mean. They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed them out of my own pocket. And others birds were boisterous and loud. They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food. After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore. So I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone. I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had built all over the patio. Soon, the back yard was like it used to be ..... quiet, serene.... and no one demanding their rights to a free meal. Now let's see......Our government gives out free food, subsidized housing, free medical care and free education, and allows anyone born here to be an automatic citizen. Then the illegals came by the tens of thousands. Suddenly our taxes went up to pay for free services; small apartments are housing 5 families; you have to wait 6 hours to be seen by an emergency room doctor; Your child's second grade class is behind other schools because over half the class doesn't speak English. Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to 'press one ' to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people waving flags other than ”ours” are squawking and screaming in the streets, demanding more rights and free liberties. Just my opinion, but maybe it's time for the government to take down the bird feeder. If you agree, pass it on; if not, just continue cleaning up the crap!! @unclesamsmisguidedchildren: I bought a bird feeder. I hung it on my back porch and filled it with seed. What a beauty of a bird feeder it was, as I filled it lovingly with seed. Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the continuous flow of free and easily accessible food. But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue. Then came the crap. It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the chairs, the table ...everywhere! Then some of the birds turned mean. They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed them out of my own pocket. And others birds were boisterous and loud. They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food. After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore. So I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone. I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had built all over the patio. Soon, the back yard was like it used to be ..... quiet, serene.... and no one demanding their rights to a free meal. Now let's see......Our government gives out free food, subsidized housing, free medical care and free education, and allows anyone born here to be an automatic citizen. Then the illegals came by the tens of thousands. Suddenly our taxes went up to pay for free services; small apartments are housing 5 families; you have to wait 6 hours to be seen by an emergency room doctor; Your child's second grade class is behind other schools because over half the class doesn't speak English. Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to 'press one ' to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people waving flags other than ”ours” are squawking and screaming in the streets, demanding more rights and free liberties. Just my opinion, but maybe it's time for the government to take down the bird feeder. If you agree, pass it on; if not, just continue cleaning up the crap!! @unclesamsmisguidedchildren

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kaylapocalypse: marina-pepsi: kaylapocalypse: sexhaver: superllama42: Make up your fucking mind. Are incels dangerous lunatics who need to be quelled at all costs, or harmless societal bottom rungs you can intentionally aggravate and fuck over out of sheer spite with impunity? imagine thinking you’re at the “bottom rung of society” just because you refuse to improve your personality enough to get your dick wet.  Dude could literally hire a hooker if he wanted there’s no excuse just stop being gross @ incels As someone who used to be a “hooker”, I promise that incels treat sex workers just as awful as you’d imagine they’d treat any women they’d date!!! because the mindset that one requires to consider themselves an “incel” usually is accompanied by personality traits that women generally dont like! Like violent misogyny, dehumanization, selfishness in sex, and insecurity that manifests as a desire for domination–which is rarely supplemented with aftercare!   Also, they largely fucking loathe sex workers, because they view us as ultimate sluts who should be punished for taking advantage of lonely men who deserve not to pay us. Sex workers are not a cure for incels, we are a bandaid on a gaping wound, my friend! : i bless the rains down in Cast. @Chinchillazilla i'm gonna design sex robots with such advanced Al that they still reject incels 2018-05-02, 1:22 AM 4,764 RETWEETS 28.1K LIKES kaylapocalypse: marina-pepsi: kaylapocalypse: sexhaver: superllama42: Make up your fucking mind. Are incels dangerous lunatics who need to be quelled at all costs, or harmless societal bottom rungs you can intentionally aggravate and fuck over out of sheer spite with impunity? imagine thinking you’re at the “bottom rung of society” just because you refuse to improve your personality enough to get your dick wet.  Dude could literally hire a hooker if he wanted there’s no excuse just stop being gross @ incels As someone who used to be a “hooker”, I promise that incels treat sex workers just as awful as you’d imagine they’d treat any women they’d date!!! because the mindset that one requires to consider themselves an “incel” usually is accompanied by personality traits that women generally dont like! Like violent misogyny, dehumanization, selfishness in sex, and insecurity that manifests as a desire for domination–which is rarely supplemented with aftercare!   Also, they largely fucking loathe sex workers, because they view us as ultimate sluts who should be punished for taking advantage of lonely men who deserve not to pay us. Sex workers are not a cure for incels, we are a bandaid on a gaping wound, my friend!
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<p><a href="https://reylaser.tumblr.com/post/172247465846/noelleian-reylaser-is-it-bc-hes-ugly-or-is" class="tumblr_blog">reylaser</a>:</p> <blockquote><p><a href="http://noelleian.tumblr.com/post/172246677717/reylaser-is-it-bc-hes-ugly-or-is-it-the-8-year" class="tumblr_blog">noelleian</a>:</p> <blockquote><p><a href="https://reylaser.tumblr.com/post/171929233001/is-it-bc-hes-ugly-or-is-it-the-8-year-age" class="tumblr_blog">reylaser</a>:</p><blockquote><p>is it bc he’s ugly, or is it the 8 year age difference added on top of a disability?</p></blockquote> <p>Is it because he’s ugly, or is it because a bunch of fuddy duddies have some idiotic hang up about how a 26 year old disabled woman has to be treated like a fragile child who can’t make her own decisions? Fuck outta here with that ableist crap.<br/></p></blockquote> <p>why don’t you fuck outta here with that defense of predatory age gaps and pretending like disabled women aren’t at higher risk for abusive relationships</p></blockquote> <p>“Predatory age gap”</p><p>Fucking HELL. A 26-year-old woman is a grown ass woman and can date whoever she damn well pleases. A less than 10 year age gap between two grown people is “predatory”? Good golly damn you people are annoying.</p><p><br/></p><p>And fuck right off the assumption that blind equals stupid and incapable of knowing if she’s a good relationship or not. How fucking ablest is that?</p>: r/relationships u/Ahreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 2h Me [34 M] with my girlfriend [26 F], her sister/friends are planning an intervention' because they believe I'm taking advantage of her because I'm ugly (she is blind) Relationships <p><a href="https://reylaser.tumblr.com/post/172247465846/noelleian-reylaser-is-it-bc-hes-ugly-or-is" class="tumblr_blog">reylaser</a>:</p> <blockquote><p><a href="http://noelleian.tumblr.com/post/172246677717/reylaser-is-it-bc-hes-ugly-or-is-it-the-8-year" class="tumblr_blog">noelleian</a>:</p> <blockquote><p><a href="https://reylaser.tumblr.com/post/171929233001/is-it-bc-hes-ugly-or-is-it-the-8-year-age" class="tumblr_blog">reylaser</a>:</p><blockquote><p>is it bc he’s ugly, or is it the 8 year age difference added on top of a disability?</p></blockquote> <p>Is it because he’s ugly, or is it because a bunch of fuddy duddies have some idiotic hang up about how a 26 year old disabled woman has to be treated like a fragile child who can’t make her own decisions? Fuck outta here with that ableist crap.<br/></p></blockquote> <p>why don’t you fuck outta here with that defense of predatory age gaps and pretending like disabled women aren’t at higher risk for abusive relationships</p></blockquote> <p>“Predatory age gap”</p><p>Fucking HELL. A 26-year-old woman is a grown ass woman and can date whoever she damn well pleases. A less than 10 year age gap between two grown people is “predatory”? Good golly damn you people are annoying.</p><p><br/></p><p>And fuck right off the assumption that blind equals stupid and incapable of knowing if she’s a good relationship or not. How fucking ablest is that?</p>
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<p><a href="http://kushonthecoast.tumblr.com/post/172485299672/rtrixie-libby-day-hello-kitty-senpai" class="tumblr_blog">kushonthecoast</a>:</p><blockquote> <p><a href="http://rtrixie.tumblr.com/post/172482025004/libby-day-hello-kitty-senpai" class="tumblr_blog">rtrixie</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://murphy.co.vu/post/172473410956/hello-kitty-senpai" class="tumblr_blog">libby-day</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://hello-kitty-senpai.tumblr.com/post/172468162052/friendly-neighborhood-patriarch-pennamites" class="tumblr_blog">hello-kitty-senpai</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://friendly-neighborhood-patriarch.tumblr.com/post/172466565062/pennamites-castle-engineer" class="tumblr_blog">friendly-neighborhood-patriarch</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="https://pennamites.tumblr.com/post/172466056952/castle-engineer-diarrheaworldstarhiphop" class="tumblr_blog">pennamites</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://castle-engineer.tumblr.com/post/172465935569/diarrheaworldstarhiphop-this-is-one-of-those" class="tumblr_blog">castle-engineer</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://diarrheaworldstarhiphop.tumblr.com/post/172465577419" class="tumblr_blog">diarrheaworldstarhiphop</a>:</p> <blockquote><figure class="tmblr-full" data-orig-height="109" data-orig-width="578"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/f5009587c75dfb2af3a5127ccb865f6a/tumblr_inline_p6hh0fW1OV1qg6gjx_540.png" data-orig-height="109" data-orig-width="578"/></figure></blockquote> <p>This is one of those things that I already knew was true, but seeing it so blatantly displayed makes me feel like like I am finding out about it for the first time.</p> </blockquote> <p>CIA is getting lazy</p> </blockquote> <p>O.o</p> </blockquote> <p>“It’s just a script whats the problem lol” the problem is that Fox, CNN, CBS, and all the other channels repped here, despite claiming to be different companies with different viewpoints, all had the exact same script, word for word, to push the exact same viewpoint that smaller, independent news outlets are Fake News and “A Threat To Our Democracy.” <br/><br/>The fact that they have scripts isn’t the problem. The problem is they all, each and every one, have the exact same script down to the letter and in some cases the fucking inflection, which basically reads “small news stations are untrustworthy and a Threat to your Way Of Life, only trust Us, We Are Verified.”</p> </blockquote> <p>i’m straight up gonna have nightmares of this hive of newspeople repeating ‘this is extremely dangerous to our democracy’</p> </blockquote> <p>If anybody asks what we’re fighting against, show them this video.</p> </blockquote> <h1>1984198419841984</h1> </blockquote> <p>IT GETS WORSE.</p><p>Sinclair Broadcasting Group, The company behind the script, is lobbying the government to take control of EVEN MORE stations. If they get their way they will have one of their stations in nearly every home in America. And the contract most of these anchors are locked into makes it pretty much impossible or at the very least very expensive and career-destroying for them to refuse to read the scripts. </p><p>This is a broadcasting network with unchecked control over exactly what it said on private broadcasting stations. They were likely taking advantage of the innate trust most people have for their local news anchors. National news might not be trustworthy but surely you can trust your friendly local anchors right? Wrong. You are being fed exactly what a much larger government sanctioned entity wants you to know, and if it doesn’t terrify you, it should.</p>: 548 FOX 29 News at Nine FOX 29 CURRENTS SAN ANTONIO 71° JESSICA HEAD LEY 71° KERRVILLE 69° TEXASAL CASE ARISING FROM THE DEATH OF A 10-YEAR-OLD BOY ON A WATE SPORTS NHL DETROIT 2 MONTREAL CARARIN SI <p><a href="http://kushonthecoast.tumblr.com/post/172485299672/rtrixie-libby-day-hello-kitty-senpai" class="tumblr_blog">kushonthecoast</a>:</p><blockquote> <p><a href="http://rtrixie.tumblr.com/post/172482025004/libby-day-hello-kitty-senpai" class="tumblr_blog">rtrixie</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://murphy.co.vu/post/172473410956/hello-kitty-senpai" class="tumblr_blog">libby-day</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://hello-kitty-senpai.tumblr.com/post/172468162052/friendly-neighborhood-patriarch-pennamites" class="tumblr_blog">hello-kitty-senpai</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://friendly-neighborhood-patriarch.tumblr.com/post/172466565062/pennamites-castle-engineer" class="tumblr_blog">friendly-neighborhood-patriarch</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="https://pennamites.tumblr.com/post/172466056952/castle-engineer-diarrheaworldstarhiphop" class="tumblr_blog">pennamites</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://castle-engineer.tumblr.com/post/172465935569/diarrheaworldstarhiphop-this-is-one-of-those" class="tumblr_blog">castle-engineer</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://diarrheaworldstarhiphop.tumblr.com/post/172465577419" class="tumblr_blog">diarrheaworldstarhiphop</a>:</p> <blockquote><figure class="tmblr-full" data-orig-height="109" data-orig-width="578"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/f5009587c75dfb2af3a5127ccb865f6a/tumblr_inline_p6hh0fW1OV1qg6gjx_540.png" data-orig-height="109" data-orig-width="578"/></figure></blockquote> <p>This is one of those things that I already knew was true, but seeing it so blatantly displayed makes me feel like like I am finding out about it for the first time.</p> </blockquote> <p>CIA is getting lazy</p> </blockquote> <p>O.o</p> </blockquote> <p>“It’s just a script whats the problem lol” the problem is that Fox, CNN, CBS, and all the other channels repped here, despite claiming to be different companies with different viewpoints, all had the exact same script, word for word, to push the exact same viewpoint that smaller, independent news outlets are Fake News and “A Threat To Our Democracy.” <br/><br/>The fact that they have scripts isn’t the problem. The problem is they all, each and every one, have the exact same script down to the letter and in some cases the fucking inflection, which basically reads “small news stations are untrustworthy and a Threat to your Way Of Life, only trust Us, We Are Verified.”</p> </blockquote> <p>i’m straight up gonna have nightmares of this hive of newspeople repeating ‘this is extremely dangerous to our democracy’</p> </blockquote> <p>If anybody asks what we’re fighting against, show them this video.</p> </blockquote> <h1>1984198419841984</h1> </blockquote> <p>IT GETS WORSE.</p><p>Sinclair Broadcasting Group, The company behind the script, is lobbying the government to take control of EVEN MORE stations. If they get their way they will have one of their stations in nearly every home in America. And the contract most of these anchors are locked into makes it pretty much impossible or at the very least very expensive and career-destroying for them to refuse to read the scripts. </p><p>This is a broadcasting network with unchecked control over exactly what it said on private broadcasting stations. They were likely taking advantage of the innate trust most people have for their local news anchors. National news might not be trustworthy but surely you can trust your friendly local anchors right? Wrong. You are being fed exactly what a much larger government sanctioned entity wants you to know, and if it doesn’t terrify you, it should.</p>
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<p><a href="http://eruhamster.tumblr.com/post/169093714870/thetakubooty-libertarirynn-hst3000" class="tumblr_blog">eruhamster</a>:</p><blockquote> <p><a href="http://thetakubooty.tumblr.com/post/169093033392/libertarirynn-hst3000-libertarirynn-this" class="tumblr_blog">thetakubooty</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="https://libertarirynn.tumblr.com/post/169092911679/hst3000-libertarirynn-this-is-a-total-load" class="tumblr_blog">libertarirynn</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="https://hst3000.tumblr.com/post/169092756302/libertarirynn-this-is-a-total-load-from-beginning" class="tumblr_blog">hst3000</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="https://libertarirynn.tumblr.com/post/169092461069/this-is-a-total-load-from-beginning-to-end-first" class="tumblr_blog">libertarirynn</a>:</p> <blockquote><p>This is a total load from beginning to end. First off I’m curious where you did your research because mine showed that Cratchit made about $90 a week or $4,680 a year in today’s money. That’s not even close to your number. Secondly, if minimum wage is so necessary to prevent employers from exploiting their workers, then why don’t all companies pay minimum wage?</p></blockquote> <p>A minor point on the conversion. Christmas Carol is far enough back that inflation calculations can get a bit hairy. Some things have been reduced in price dramatically due to automation and industrialization, while others have gotten way more expensive due to (funnily enough) rising labor costs. There’s about five different ways to calculate conversion, and none if them are broadly applicable to global statements.</p> </blockquote> <p>Oh definitely. Even in my calculations it wasn’t too clean-cut. Plus the modern English shilling is not the same as the shilling in 1843. I don’t want to sound like a cynic and suggest that this person just pulled a random number out of their ass without caring whether not it was accurate because they wanted to make a point but…</p> </blockquote> <p>what was their point?</p> </blockquote> <p>Their point was that Bob Cratchit made next to nothing working for Scrooge as it was, and if he got paid more than minimum wage workers today, then we have something very wrong with our society. Which isn’t necessarily wrong.</p> <p>Also <a class="tumblelog" href="https://tmblr.co/mZHrjydhp9oUbxMGBDJA8rw">@libertarirynn</a> you’re really asking why minimum wage is necessary? Of course if everyone paid the same minimum wage, then they wouldn’t get people who cared about their jobs and it’d be harder to find skilled workers– both because existing skilled workers would rather work a minimum wage job where they could do less, and because no one would want to bother to learn trades and skills because they’ll get paid the same shit amount anyway. </p> <p>Minimum wage is necessary to stop people from taking advantage of unskilled labor. Factory work and the like. Do you know what life was like for people before minimum wage was a thing? People were making so little that essentially all they did was work all day, and child labor was popular because the entire family needed to work to make ends meet– mother, father, and children. It was necessary to give people a better standard of living, along with abolishing child labor and making sure people did not end up working 12 hours a day 6, sometimes 7 days a week. Do you not know what Industrial Revolution America was like, before regulations? Child labor, people just asking to ONLY work 40 hours a week, extreme poverty, a lack of regulations that caused tragedies like the fire at the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_Shirtwaist_Factory_fire">Triangle Shirtwaist Factory,</a> etc. </p> <p>And before you ask why it’s necessary today now that we’ve long since gotten rid of things like child labor laws… It’s for all the people who lose their jobs or are single mothers and are forced to work multiple part time jobs in order to feed their children, because so many jobs that do not pay minimum wage today require so much experience and a degree. Maybe if employers were less selfish with hiring practices and gave more people jobs when they needed them and made it so only teenagers had to work minimum wage, we’d be alright. But that’s not how the world is.</p> </blockquote> <blockquote><p>Their point was that Bob Cratchit made next to nothing working for Scrooge as it was, and if he got paid more than minimum wage workers today, then we have something very wrong with our society. Which isn’t necessarily wrong.</p></blockquote> Except that it is wrong, because as I just pointed out Bob Crachit was making much, much less than minimum wage. <blockquote><p>Also @libertarirynn you’re really asking why minimum wage is necessary?</p></blockquote> Yep. And if you haven’t heard me do it before you must be new here. <blockquote>Of course if everyone paid the same minimum wage, then they wouldn’t get people who cared about their jobs and it’d be harder to find skilled workers– both because existing skilled workers would rather work a minimum wage job where they could do less, and because no one would want to bother to learn trades and skills because they’ll get paid the same shit amount anyway.</blockquote> Wow I literally don’t know what to say. You pointed out the exact reasons the imposition of a minimum wage is unnecessary. Companies are naturally going to offer more if they think it will give them more skilled workers. <blockquote><p>Minimum wage is necessary to stop people from taking advantage of unskilled labor. Factory work and the like. Do you know what life was like for people before minimum wage was a thing? People were making so little that essentially all they did was work all day, and child labor was popular because the entire family needed to work to make ends meet– mother, father, and children. It was necessary to give people a better standard of living, along with abolishing child labor and making sure people did not end up working 12 hours a day 6, sometimes 7 days a week. Do you not know what Industrial Revolution America was like, before regulations? Child labor, people just asking to ONLY work 40 hours a week, extreme poverty, a lack of regulations that caused tragedies like the fire at the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory, etc.</p></blockquote> Most of that has very little to do with minimum wage, nor is it particularly relevant in modernized industry. <blockquote><p>And before you ask why it’s necessary today now that we’ve long since gotten rid of things like child labor laws… It’s for all the people who lose their jobs or are single mothers and are forced to work multiple part time jobs in order to feed their children, because so many jobs that do not pay minimum wage today require so much experience and a degree. Maybe if employers were less selfish with hiring practices and gave more people jobs when they needed them and made it so only teenagers had to work minimum wage, we’d be alright. But that’s not how the world is.</p></blockquote> We can’t just magically decide to skill is worth more money because of sob stories about single mothers. I know many a single mother who did things like go to night classes to earn a degree or even just learn particular skills to make themselves a valuable employee worth more than minimum wage. And again, most low skill jobs *do* pay above minimum wage, especially to valuable workers. I’ve only been paid minimum wage once in my life, and I’ve worked several low skill jobs. Do you know why this is? Because those jobs are dime a dozen. Wendy’s knows if they pay you just minimum wage and McDonald’s offers you a dollar more, you go work at McDonald’s. Companies being able to set their wages drives competition and therefore wages up. Skill is a commodity to be paid for just like anything else. Flipping burgers simply is not worth $15 an hour and emotional appeals involving child factory workers from 1928 will not change that. I encourage you to check my minimum wage tag for more in-depth information. <a href="https://tmblr.co/mhaiNKeZ_RViwScgQtvf7CQ">@redbloodedamerica</a> <a href="https://tmblr.co/mIiX85InXZ_5gFO1XlH6zKA">@libertybill</a> <a href="https://tmblr.co/m5-xacQqloOb-oZ4F4dhAIA">@libertarian-lady</a>: Amy Renee Wasney Monday at 9:31 PM While watching A Christmas Carol tonight, my attention was caught by Bob Cratchit's salary. He makes "15 bob a week." I got curious and looked into inflation and conversion to American money, and if A Christmas Carol happened this year, Bob Cratchit would be making $27,574 per year in American money. If someone works 40 hours a week at the current federal minimum wage, they'll make $15,080. So Bob Cratchit, the epitome of poverty, makes $12,494 more than minimum wage workers (full time) each year. And yet we have people saying minimum wage is fine where it's at. <p><a href="http://eruhamster.tumblr.com/post/169093714870/thetakubooty-libertarirynn-hst3000" class="tumblr_blog">eruhamster</a>:</p><blockquote> <p><a href="http://thetakubooty.tumblr.com/post/169093033392/libertarirynn-hst3000-libertarirynn-this" class="tumblr_blog">thetakubooty</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="https://libertarirynn.tumblr.com/post/169092911679/hst3000-libertarirynn-this-is-a-total-load" class="tumblr_blog">libertarirynn</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="https://hst3000.tumblr.com/post/169092756302/libertarirynn-this-is-a-total-load-from-beginning" class="tumblr_blog">hst3000</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="https://libertarirynn.tumblr.com/post/169092461069/this-is-a-total-load-from-beginning-to-end-first" class="tumblr_blog">libertarirynn</a>:</p> <blockquote><p>This is a total load from beginning to end. First off I’m curious where you did your research because mine showed that Cratchit made about $90 a week or $4,680 a year in today’s money. That’s not even close to your number. Secondly, if minimum wage is so necessary to prevent employers from exploiting their workers, then why don’t all companies pay minimum wage?</p></blockquote> <p>A minor point on the conversion. Christmas Carol is far enough back that inflation calculations can get a bit hairy. Some things have been reduced in price dramatically due to automation and industrialization, while others have gotten way more expensive due to (funnily enough) rising labor costs. There’s about five different ways to calculate conversion, and none if them are broadly applicable to global statements.</p> </blockquote> <p>Oh definitely. Even in my calculations it wasn’t too clean-cut. Plus the modern English shilling is not the same as the shilling in 1843. I don’t want to sound like a cynic and suggest that this person just pulled a random number out of their ass without caring whether not it was accurate because they wanted to make a point but…</p> </blockquote> <p>what was their point?</p> </blockquote> <p>Their point was that Bob Cratchit made next to nothing working for Scrooge as it was, and if he got paid more than minimum wage workers today, then we have something very wrong with our society. Which isn’t necessarily wrong.</p> <p>Also <a class="tumblelog" href="https://tmblr.co/mZHrjydhp9oUbxMGBDJA8rw">@libertarirynn</a> you’re really asking why minimum wage is necessary? Of course if everyone paid the same minimum wage, then they wouldn’t get people who cared about their jobs and it’d be harder to find skilled workers– both because existing skilled workers would rather work a minimum wage job where they could do less, and because no one would want to bother to learn trades and skills because they’ll get paid the same shit amount anyway. </p> <p>Minimum wage is necessary to stop people from taking advantage of unskilled labor. Factory work and the like. Do you know what life was like for people before minimum wage was a thing? People were making so little that essentially all they did was work all day, and child labor was popular because the entire family needed to work to make ends meet– mother, father, and children. It was necessary to give people a better standard of living, along with abolishing child labor and making sure people did not end up working 12 hours a day 6, sometimes 7 days a week. Do you not know what Industrial Revolution America was like, before regulations? Child labor, people just asking to ONLY work 40 hours a week, extreme poverty, a lack of regulations that caused tragedies like the fire at the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_Shirtwaist_Factory_fire">Triangle Shirtwaist Factory,</a> etc. </p> <p>And before you ask why it’s necessary today now that we’ve long since gotten rid of things like child labor laws… It’s for all the people who lose their jobs or are single mothers and are forced to work multiple part time jobs in order to feed their children, because so many jobs that do not pay minimum wage today require so much experience and a degree. Maybe if employers were less selfish with hiring practices and gave more people jobs when they needed them and made it so only teenagers had to work minimum wage, we’d be alright. But that’s not how the world is.</p> </blockquote> <blockquote><p>Their point was that Bob Cratchit made next to nothing working for Scrooge as it was, and if he got paid more than minimum wage workers today, then we have something very wrong with our society. Which isn’t necessarily wrong.</p></blockquote> Except that it is wrong, because as I just pointed out Bob Crachit was making much, much less than minimum wage. <blockquote><p>Also @libertarirynn you’re really asking why minimum wage is necessary?</p></blockquote> Yep. And if you haven’t heard me do it before you must be new here. <blockquote>Of course if everyone paid the same minimum wage, then they wouldn’t get people who cared about their jobs and it’d be harder to find skilled workers– both because existing skilled workers would rather work a minimum wage job where they could do less, and because no one would want to bother to learn trades and skills because they’ll get paid the same shit amount anyway.</blockquote> Wow I literally don’t know what to say. You pointed out the exact reasons the imposition of a minimum wage is unnecessary. Companies are naturally going to offer more if they think it will give them more skilled workers. <blockquote><p>Minimum wage is necessary to stop people from taking advantage of unskilled labor. Factory work and the like. Do you know what life was like for people before minimum wage was a thing? People were making so little that essentially all they did was work all day, and child labor was popular because the entire family needed to work to make ends meet– mother, father, and children. It was necessary to give people a better standard of living, along with abolishing child labor and making sure people did not end up working 12 hours a day 6, sometimes 7 days a week. Do you not know what Industrial Revolution America was like, before regulations? Child labor, people just asking to ONLY work 40 hours a week, extreme poverty, a lack of regulations that caused tragedies like the fire at the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory, etc.</p></blockquote> Most of that has very little to do with minimum wage, nor is it particularly relevant in modernized industry. <blockquote><p>And before you ask why it’s necessary today now that we’ve long since gotten rid of things like child labor laws… It’s for all the people who lose their jobs or are single mothers and are forced to work multiple part time jobs in order to feed their children, because so many jobs that do not pay minimum wage today require so much experience and a degree. Maybe if employers were less selfish with hiring practices and gave more people jobs when they needed them and made it so only teenagers had to work minimum wage, we’d be alright. But that’s not how the world is.</p></blockquote> We can’t just magically decide to skill is worth more money because of sob stories about single mothers. I know many a single mother who did things like go to night classes to earn a degree or even just learn particular skills to make themselves a valuable employee worth more than minimum wage. And again, most low skill jobs *do* pay above minimum wage, especially to valuable workers. I’ve only been paid minimum wage once in my life, and I’ve worked several low skill jobs. Do you know why this is? Because those jobs are dime a dozen. Wendy’s knows if they pay you just minimum wage and McDonald’s offers you a dollar more, you go work at McDonald’s. Companies being able to set their wages drives competition and therefore wages up. Skill is a commodity to be paid for just like anything else. Flipping burgers simply is not worth $15 an hour and emotional appeals involving child factory workers from 1928 will not change that. I encourage you to check my minimum wage tag for more in-depth information. <a href="https://tmblr.co/mhaiNKeZ_RViwScgQtvf7CQ">@redbloodedamerica</a> <a href="https://tmblr.co/mIiX85InXZ_5gFO1XlH6zKA">@libertybill</a> <a href="https://tmblr.co/m5-xacQqloOb-oZ4F4dhAIA">@libertarian-lady</a>
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