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azkre: marvelandponder: secondlina: I’m really alarmed by the misinformation I see on social media right now, so here is a little simplified guide to WTF is going on. (Edited to work better for tumblr, I originally just made screenshots for Twitter) What is a NAZI? Nazi is an abbreviation for National Socialism (Nationalsozialismus) an ideology associated primarily with the 20th-century German Nazi Party (especially while it was being led by Adolt Hitler). The idea that National Socialism lived and died primarily through Hitler is actually a myth propagated by post-war propaganda and Hollywood. America destroyed those Nazis!! YAY!! – Wrong, They still exist. Although not under that name. Any far-right groups is basically a “Nazi” party (many even used the term “National Socialism” until a re-branding in the 80’s. The German political scientist Klaus von Beyme describes three historical phases in the development of far-right parties in Western Europe after World War II. From 1945 to the mid-1950s, far-right parties were marginalized, and their ideologies were discredited due to the recent existence and defeat of Nazism – because people were murdered. In droves. Like millions of people. Death camps are REAL. 11 million people died, including 1.1 million children. Thus in the years immediately following World War II, the main objective of far-right parties was survival; achieving any political impact at all, was largely not expected. From the mid-1950s to the 1970s, the so-called “populist protest phase” emerged with sporadic electoral success. During this period, far-right parties drew to them charismatic leaders whose profound mistrust of the political establishment led to an “us-versus-them” mind set: “us” being the nation’s citizenry, “them” being the politicians and bureaucrats who were then in office; beginning in the 1980s, the electoral successes of far-right political candidates made it possible for far-right political parties to revitalize anti-immigration as a mainstream issue. What does anybody in the far right REALLY support? How politics work is that there is two sides. The right and the left. In the middle, Liberalism and democracy. The far-right isn’t about the “working man” at all. That’s what the LEFT is about. The Left is ALL about the public being in control. There is currently no major leftist parties in power in America (Democrats are closer to the middle - center-right, actually. They just get called the left party because nobody is). What the right really advocates is private economic ownership (aka the rich getting’ richer), racial hierarchy (whites better than everyone else) and Social Darwinism (which is the idea that “weak” humans, aka the old, the sick, etc, deserve to be removed. That means gradually killed. Don’t get attached to your grandma). Extreme right-wing politicians are usually extreme nationalists (“bringing back JOBS to AMERICANS” = eventually they will exploit you as workers void of rights), and are opposed to immigration. They are also profoundly chauvinistic (that means women are seen as inferior). Is Trump a representative of the extreme right? Most definitely, since he supports all that was listed above. Loudly, too. So, Trump isn’t going to really help the so-called American Working Man? Who even is that? Everybody American works, no matter who they are. But if you mean that you’re a white middle class American, then you’ll get candy for a year and then be abused just like the rest of us. You’re already losing your rights to free information and healthcare. So, you might as well join the fight with us. Who is Richard B. Spencer? Richard Bertrand Spencer (born May 11, 1978) is an American white nationalist, known for promoting white supremacist views. He is president of the National Policy Institute, a white nationalist think-tank, and Washington Summit Publishers, an independent publishing firm. Spencer has stated that he rejects the description of white supremacist, and describes himself as an identitarian. He advocates for a white homeland for a “dispossessed white race” and calls for “peaceful ethnic cleansing” to halt the “deconstruction” of European culture. The Identitarian movement is a European political movement that started in France in 2002 and is basically all about destroying anybody who is a shade darker then milk. The Identitarian movement has a close linkage to members of the German New Right, aka Neo-Nazis. So this guy is definitely a “Nazi”. Was it ok to punch him? It’s never ok to punch someone who has not provoked you. HOWEVER, what Spencer is doing is saying: I want to hurt people. I want to hurt people a lot. Not today. But, tomorrow, maybe. His very existence and allegiance is a constant menace. Picture it this way, if you met a guy in the park and he said hi, I don’t have a gun today, but I might tomorrow, and I might come back to shoot people, would you just ignore him? No. So in conclusion, march peacefully, but do punch Nazis.  This is the American scale. I really want to point this out because it’s a legitimate thing that Trump is far more extreme right than you may think. It also explains why this is a thing that happened. See, compared to many other countries in the world, my own included, the American political spectrum is offset to the right. So what OP said about there not being an extreme left is absolutely true, there’s barely a left to begin with. Sourcity-Sourcey-Source I’d like to point out that this is a recorded phenomenon in political science and not my own biased interpretation of your politics. Noam Chomsky—cognitive scientist, historian, social critic, and political activist among other things (this guy pops up in my university classes from time to time; the dude’s part of the curriculum whether that says anything to you or not)—has been pretty outspoken about this. “… so what [Republicans have] done is mobilized sectors of the population that have always been there but have never really been politically mobilized, like Evangelical Christians, the nativists who are afraid that ‘they’ are taking our country away from us, white racists, … gun-people who are so terrified that they have to carry their guns into church because maybe somebody’ll come after them.  You know, these sectors of the population are there, and that’s now the base of the Republican party.” So, this election night was a shocking, absolutely horrifying blow to my American friends. Even my friends here in Canada couldn’t come to terms with it. I saw panic attacks, fears about even visiting American relatives in the States again, and even a depressive loss of faith in humanity. How could this be where the world is today? Because, it’s this gradual shift to the right that’s so insidious, that happened for a variety of complex reasons, I’m sure, that can to some make it seem like the current Republican party is a reasonable center-right party, when in actuality they are legitimately far right. And as such, able to take advantage of these small groups on the outside that have desperately wanted a podium for a long time. So, no, you’re not imagining it, America. This isn’t normal. Punch some Nazis, if that’s what it takes. side note: This is what we call the Overton Window and that is a really good visual of it. It’s also important to point out that this isn’t just the United States and it never really was. Even now, because of Brexit and Trump’s election, the radical nationalist/fascist/racist/sexist/whatever end of the political spectrum is now being galvanized globally with the success and encouragement of this and aided by political echo-chambers in media, the internet, and small communities. Nationalist movements are picking up again in France and Germany and even Canada now has at least three people running for the Conservative Party leadership on a Trump-like storm. : Left and Right Wing Fascism and Traditional Nazism Socialism conservatism Left wing Right wing Private economic Public economic ownership and hierarchy ownership and equality Communism and Liberalism Right-wing left-wing anarchism anarchism azkre: marvelandponder: secondlina: I’m really alarmed by the misinformation I see on social media right now, so here is a little simplified guide to WTF is going on. (Edited to work better for tumblr, I originally just made screenshots for Twitter) What is a NAZI? Nazi is an abbreviation for National Socialism (Nationalsozialismus) an ideology associated primarily with the 20th-century German Nazi Party (especially while it was being led by Adolt Hitler). The idea that National Socialism lived and died primarily through Hitler is actually a myth propagated by post-war propaganda and Hollywood. America destroyed those Nazis!! YAY!! – Wrong, They still exist. Although not under that name. Any far-right groups is basically a “Nazi” party (many even used the term “National Socialism” until a re-branding in the 80’s. The German political scientist Klaus von Beyme describes three historical phases in the development of far-right parties in Western Europe after World War II. From 1945 to the mid-1950s, far-right parties were marginalized, and their ideologies were discredited due to the recent existence and defeat of Nazism – because people were murdered. In droves. Like millions of people. Death camps are REAL. 11 million people died, including 1.1 million children. Thus in the years immediately following World War II, the main objective of far-right parties was survival; achieving any political impact at all, was largely not expected. From the mid-1950s to the 1970s, the so-called “populist protest phase” emerged with sporadic electoral success. During this period, far-right parties drew to them charismatic leaders whose profound mistrust of the political establishment led to an “us-versus-them” mind set: “us” being the nation’s citizenry, “them” being the politicians and bureaucrats who were then in office; beginning in the 1980s, the electoral successes of far-right political candidates made it possible for far-right political parties to revitalize anti-immigration as a mainstream issue. What does anybody in the far right REALLY support? How politics work is that there is two sides. The right and the left. In the middle, Liberalism and democracy. The far-right isn’t about the “working man” at all. That’s what the LEFT is about. The Left is ALL about the public being in control. There is currently no major leftist parties in power in America (Democrats are closer to the middle - center-right, actually. They just get called the left party because nobody is). What the right really advocates is private economic ownership (aka the rich getting’ richer), racial hierarchy (whites better than everyone else) and Social Darwinism (which is the idea that “weak” humans, aka the old, the sick, etc, deserve to be removed. That means gradually killed. Don’t get attached to your grandma). Extreme right-wing politicians are usually extreme nationalists (“bringing back JOBS to AMERICANS” = eventually they will exploit you as workers void of rights), and are opposed to immigration. They are also profoundly chauvinistic (that means women are seen as inferior). Is Trump a representative of the extreme right? Most definitely, since he supports all that was listed above. Loudly, too. So, Trump isn’t going to really help the so-called American Working Man? Who even is that? Everybody American works, no matter who they are. But if you mean that you’re a white middle class American, then you’ll get candy for a year and then be abused just like the rest of us. You’re already losing your rights to free information and healthcare. So, you might as well join the fight with us. Who is Richard B. Spencer? Richard Bertrand Spencer (born May 11, 1978) is an American white nationalist, known for promoting white supremacist views. He is president of the National Policy Institute, a white nationalist think-tank, and Washington Summit Publishers, an independent publishing firm. Spencer has stated that he rejects the description of white supremacist, and describes himself as an identitarian. He advocates for a white homeland for a “dispossessed white race” and calls for “peaceful ethnic cleansing” to halt the “deconstruction” of European culture. The Identitarian movement is a European political movement that started in France in 2002 and is basically all about destroying anybody who is a shade darker then milk. The Identitarian movement has a close linkage to members of the German New Right, aka Neo-Nazis. So this guy is definitely a “Nazi”. Was it ok to punch him? It’s never ok to punch someone who has not provoked you. HOWEVER, what Spencer is doing is saying: I want to hurt people. I want to hurt people a lot. Not today. But, tomorrow, maybe. His very existence and allegiance is a constant menace. Picture it this way, if you met a guy in the park and he said hi, I don’t have a gun today, but I might tomorrow, and I might come back to shoot people, would you just ignore him? No. So in conclusion, march peacefully, but do punch Nazis.  This is the American scale. I really want to point this out because it’s a legitimate thing that Trump is far more extreme right than you may think. It also explains why this is a thing that happened. See, compared to many other countries in the world, my own included, the American political spectrum is offset to the right. So what OP said about there not being an extreme left is absolutely true, there’s barely a left to begin with. Sourcity-Sourcey-Source I’d like to point out that this is a recorded phenomenon in political science and not my own biased interpretation of your politics. Noam Chomsky—cognitive scientist, historian, social critic, and political activist among other things (this guy pops up in my university classes from time to time; the dude’s part of the curriculum whether that says anything to you or not)—has been pretty outspoken about this. “… so what [Republicans have] done is mobilized sectors of the population that have always been there but have never really been politically mobilized, like Evangelical Christians, the nativists who are afraid that ‘they’ are taking our country away from us, white racists, … gun-people who are so terrified that they have to carry their guns into church because maybe somebody’ll come after them.  You know, these sectors of the population are there, and that’s now the base of the Republican party.” So, this election night was a shocking, absolutely horrifying blow to my American friends. Even my friends here in Canada couldn’t come to terms with it. I saw panic attacks, fears about even visiting American relatives in the States again, and even a depressive loss of faith in humanity. How could this be where the world is today? Because, it’s this gradual shift to the right that’s so insidious, that happened for a variety of complex reasons, I’m sure, that can to some make it seem like the current Republican party is a reasonable center-right party, when in actuality they are legitimately far right. And as such, able to take advantage of these small groups on the outside that have desperately wanted a podium for a long time. So, no, you’re not imagining it, America. This isn’t normal. Punch some Nazis, if that’s what it takes. side note: This is what we call the Overton Window and that is a really good visual of it. It’s also important to point out that this isn’t just the United States and it never really was. Even now, because of Brexit and Trump’s election, the radical nationalist/fascist/racist/sexist/whatever end of the political spectrum is now being galvanized globally with the success and encouragement of this and aided by political echo-chambers in media, the internet, and small communities. Nationalist movements are picking up again in France and Germany and even Canada now has at least three people running for the Conservative Party leadership on a Trump-like storm.
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<p><a class="tumblr_blog" href="http://lolingatliberals.tumblr.com/post/34657371599/back-in-the-day-youngins-used-to-go-on-memebase">lolingatliberals</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>Back in the day, youngins used to go on Memebase to laugh at funny pictures of Cats wearing pieces of toast as helmets — Today, this same site also seems to offer the occasional bit of political advice to it’s 12-18 year old primary userbase.</p> <p>How lovely.</p> <p>But let’s take a look at what shit they are shoveling to our kids, yes?</p> <p><strong>1. Nationalism.</strong></p> <p>True. Both GOP members and the Nazis were nationalistic. But did both subscribe to a shared patriotism of the same land? This is important to consider because being nationalistic means absolutely nothing on it’s own. People who consider themselves patriotic generally are subscribing to the values that their nation has adopted as being representative of their own personal ideologies.</p> <p>Thus, being nationalistic means nothing on it’s own unless you factor in the principles that nation exhibits as a primary variable.</p> <p>Canadians are some of the most nationalistic people on the planet earth.. As were the Russians of the old Soviet Union. Are they much like Nazi Germany simply because of it?</p> <p><strong>2. Authoritarianism.</strong></p> <p>Defined by Wikipedia as:</p> <blockquote> <p><strong>dictatorship: a form of government in which the ruler is an absolute dictator (not restricted by a constitution or laws or opposition etc.).</strong></p> </blockquote> <p>Indeed, Nazi Germany was a one-party dictatorship run by Adolf Hitler. There was no declaration of rights signed by his Government, nor was any dissent allowed without harsh consequence.</p> <p>By contrast, the Tea Party is:</p> <ul><li>Anti-big Government, and,</li> <li>Pro-Constitution.</li> </ul><p>Those two factors alone disrupt this entire second point.. Both because the Tea Party favors limiting the authority of Government, and because their hyper Constitutionalism would never allow the infringement of the liberties granted within.</p> <p>Freedom of Speech, Faith, and Property are essential tenets to Republicanism.</p> <p>3. Social Darwinism.</p> <p>Social Darwinism is a theory based in the notion that environments shape the groups within those environments. Basically, ensuring that the group most capable of survival in that environment will ultimately inherit it.</p> <p>I don’t quite understand what this has to do with politics — But I am assuming the Liberals have taken a racial edge to this long-held component of biology. In that case, I’d simply laugh and remind them that it was the Republicans who freed the slaves, and ensured the Constitution [pesky little bugger] protected them to the full extent of which it protected every other person who stepped foot on American soil.</p> <p>The Democrats [confederacy] were responsible for the push for the dehumanization of non-whites, and formed the original KKK.</p> <p>Still — Somehow the Tea Party is racist for wanting to encourage the independence of every American citizen, and not perpetuate the emotional bondage of historical victimization and Government dependency of African-Americans and other minorities.</p> <p><strong>4. Indoctrination.</strong></p> <p>Because being a loathed minority political group is akin to indoctrination.</p> <p><em>[See: Projection]</em></p> <p>Mind you, I would dare ask a Liberal who, exactly, is not indoctrinated.. Most likely, their answer will include themselves, and anyone who thinks like themselves.. Which is a perfect segway intoooooo~</p> <p><strong>5. Propaganda.</strong></p> <p><img alt="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_baOacp0B_V4/SRHrvWpaanI/AAAAAAAABvM/6QPre_iePHg/s400/obama_hope_progress_change.jpg" class="decoded" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_baOacp0B_V4/SRHrvWpaanI/AAAAAAAABvM/6QPre_iePHg/s400/obama_hope_progress_change.jpg"/></p> <p>Propaganda simply means any biased information used to mislead others into viewing a group or person favorably or unfavorably. It is used by every company, group, political leader, ideology, etc… No one is exempt from the use of propaganda to attempt to sway others to see their point of view as being the ‘right’ point of view.</p> <p>The picture I am replying to is propaganda. It is pro-Liberalism in nature with the intention of attempting to sway it’s readers towards subscribing to the same paradigm it does.</p> <p>My blog is propaganda… Tumblr is propaganda.</p> <p>What Liberals argue about propaganda is a case study in how effective propaganda can be. They are so indoctrinated that they truly believe that their ideology isn’t one. They are without ideology. Their views are without bias. Their political subscription is simply the absolute best thing that no one but like-minded comrades seem to understand.</p> <p><strong>6. Anti-Intellectualism.</strong></p> <p>Define intellectualism, love.</p> <p><strong>7. Militarism.</strong></p> <p>Militarism is simply defined as believing in having a strong national defense system and military.</p> <p><em>How awful.</em></p> <p>I mean.. It’s just so capitalistic, you know? It’s not like anyone else has armies. We are just war mongering in supporting our troops and securing our borders.. And just meddling when we try to stop Governments from mass-slaughtering their own people overseas.</p> <p><strong>8. Anti Communism.</strong></p> <p>My favorite!</p> <p>The Nazis were Socialists. In fact, the word ‘Nazi’ is an abbreviation of the National <em>Socialist</em> Worker’s Party’s German title. The Nazis were not anti-Communism.. They were <em>anti-Soviet Union</em>.</p> <p>And yes.. The Tea Party, as all Conservatives, are anti Communism — But not without support, in this area! The 100,000,000+ people who died under Communist rule in only about 100 years are pretty anti-Communist, too.</p> <p><em>[Goddamn..]</em></p> </blockquote> <p>The original post is HILARIOUSLY stupid. I mean what even?</p>: VS DONT TREAD ON ME The Nazi Party The Tea Party 1. Nationalism 2. Authoritarianism 3. Social Darwinism 4. Indoctrination 5. Propaganda 6. Anti-Intellectualism 7. Militarism 8. Anti-Communism 1. Nationalism 2. Authoritarianism 3. Social Darwinism 4. Indoctrination 5. Propaganda 6. Anti-Intellectualism 7. Militarism 8. Anti-Communism ANY QUESTIONS? COM <p><a class="tumblr_blog" href="http://lolingatliberals.tumblr.com/post/34657371599/back-in-the-day-youngins-used-to-go-on-memebase">lolingatliberals</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>Back in the day, youngins used to go on Memebase to laugh at funny pictures of Cats wearing pieces of toast as helmets — Today, this same site also seems to offer the occasional bit of political advice to it’s 12-18 year old primary userbase.</p> <p>How lovely.</p> <p>But let’s take a look at what shit they are shoveling to our kids, yes?</p> <p><strong>1. Nationalism.</strong></p> <p>True. Both GOP members and the Nazis were nationalistic. But did both subscribe to a shared patriotism of the same land? This is important to consider because being nationalistic means absolutely nothing on it’s own. People who consider themselves patriotic generally are subscribing to the values that their nation has adopted as being representative of their own personal ideologies.</p> <p>Thus, being nationalistic means nothing on it’s own unless you factor in the principles that nation exhibits as a primary variable.</p> <p>Canadians are some of the most nationalistic people on the planet earth.. As were the Russians of the old Soviet Union. Are they much like Nazi Germany simply because of it?</p> <p><strong>2. Authoritarianism.</strong></p> <p>Defined by Wikipedia as:</p> <blockquote> <p><strong>dictatorship: a form of government in which the ruler is an absolute dictator (not restricted by a constitution or laws or opposition etc.).</strong></p> </blockquote> <p>Indeed, Nazi Germany was a one-party dictatorship run by Adolf Hitler. There was no declaration of rights signed by his Government, nor was any dissent allowed without harsh consequence.</p> <p>By contrast, the Tea Party is:</p> <ul><li>Anti-big Government, and,</li> <li>Pro-Constitution.</li> </ul><p>Those two factors alone disrupt this entire second point.. Both because the Tea Party favors limiting the authority of Government, and because their hyper Constitutionalism would never allow the infringement of the liberties granted within.</p> <p>Freedom of Speech, Faith, and Property are essential tenets to Republicanism.</p> <p>3. Social Darwinism.</p> <p>Social Darwinism is a theory based in the notion that environments shape the groups within those environments. Basically, ensuring that the group most capable of survival in that environment will ultimately inherit it.</p> <p>I don’t quite understand what this has to do with politics — But I am assuming the Liberals have taken a racial edge to this long-held component of biology. In that case, I’d simply laugh and remind them that it was the Republicans who freed the slaves, and ensured the Constitution [pesky little bugger] protected them to the full extent of which it protected every other person who stepped foot on American soil.</p> <p>The Democrats [confederacy] were responsible for the push for the dehumanization of non-whites, and formed the original KKK.</p> <p>Still — Somehow the Tea Party is racist for wanting to encourage the independence of every American citizen, and not perpetuate the emotional bondage of historical victimization and Government dependency of African-Americans and other minorities.</p> <p><strong>4. Indoctrination.</strong></p> <p>Because being a loathed minority political group is akin to indoctrination.</p> <p><em>[See: Projection]</em></p> <p>Mind you, I would dare ask a Liberal who, exactly, is not indoctrinated.. Most likely, their answer will include themselves, and anyone who thinks like themselves.. Which is a perfect segway intoooooo~</p> <p><strong>5. Propaganda.</strong></p> <p><img alt="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_baOacp0B_V4/SRHrvWpaanI/AAAAAAAABvM/6QPre_iePHg/s400/obama_hope_progress_change.jpg" class="decoded" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_baOacp0B_V4/SRHrvWpaanI/AAAAAAAABvM/6QPre_iePHg/s400/obama_hope_progress_change.jpg"/></p> <p>Propaganda simply means any biased information used to mislead others into viewing a group or person favorably or unfavorably. It is used by every company, group, political leader, ideology, etc… No one is exempt from the use of propaganda to attempt to sway others to see their point of view as being the ‘right’ point of view.</p> <p>The picture I am replying to is propaganda. It is pro-Liberalism in nature with the intention of attempting to sway it’s readers towards subscribing to the same paradigm it does.</p> <p>My blog is propaganda… Tumblr is propaganda.</p> <p>What Liberals argue about propaganda is a case study in how effective propaganda can be. They are so indoctrinated that they truly believe that their ideology isn’t one. They are without ideology. Their views are without bias. Their political subscription is simply the absolute best thing that no one but like-minded comrades seem to understand.</p> <p><strong>6. Anti-Intellectualism.</strong></p> <p>Define intellectualism, love.</p> <p><strong>7. Militarism.</strong></p> <p>Militarism is simply defined as believing in having a strong national defense system and military.</p> <p><em>How awful.</em></p> <p>I mean.. It’s just so capitalistic, you know? It’s not like anyone else has armies. We are just war mongering in supporting our troops and securing our borders.. And just meddling when we try to stop Governments from mass-slaughtering their own people overseas.</p> <p><strong>8. Anti Communism.</strong></p> <p>My favorite!</p> <p>The Nazis were Socialists. In fact, the word ‘Nazi’ is an abbreviation of the National <em>Socialist</em> Worker’s Party’s German title. The Nazis were not anti-Communism.. They were <em>anti-Soviet Union</em>.</p> <p>And yes.. The Tea Party, as all Conservatives, are anti Communism — But not without support, in this area! The 100,000,000+ people who died under Communist rule in only about 100 years are pretty anti-Communist, too.</p> <p><em>[Goddamn..]</em></p> </blockquote> <p>The original post is HILARIOUSLY stupid. I mean what even?</p>
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