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Defense of capitalism bruh. Also centrism: [-] FornhubForReal [score hidden] 3 hours ago* Capitalism is the embodiment of freedom. Sadly, humanity cannot deal with that freedom. Edit: I think you deleted your comment while I answered, just wanted to clarify my position: I think this black and white thinking is the real issue here. There are enough examples in our world who combine elements of both ideas into a working system. Capitalism and socialism are no opposites, even though many people seem to think that. Pure capitalism (thank you, Adam Smith) IS the embodiment of freedom, a self-regulating machine of people who can decide for themselves what they do and what they want. But because many people are not able or not interested in informing themselves and are easy to manipulate, governments need to create rules and oversight mechanisms to fight and prevent exploitation and corruption as well as social programs to guarantee a certain level of welfare for even the last citizen. Sadly the American elite is too greedy to change anything and misuses the basic idea of capitalism to exploit others. Hope you now understand what I wanted to say. permalink embed save parent report give award REPLY [-) FornhubForReal [score hidden] 51 minutes ago Every societal theory suffers from that issue. That is what people need to understand. It is not capitalism that is bad. It is not communism that is bad. Not socialism and not even dictatorship. It is power hungry people with questionable morals and what they make of it that makes it bad. We do not need to change the system, we need to change the people. [-] Vlipfire 1 point 20 hours ago No wealth doesn't create more wealth. Cars are an example of wealth that depreciates. Investment can create more wealth. You can turn 100 into 110 in the same time as your other example. Those growths are investments and have inherent risk. As for the class divide would you rather have 50% of 100$ or 1% of 1,000,000? My issue with all of the replies I have got is that you all seem incredibly selfish and whiney. "Bezos has so much he doesnt need that we should steal it and give it to others (me)" if you want more then work for it come up with a new idea, contribute to society by adding convenience or innovation. That is how capitalism rewards ANYONE! In that way it is a perfectly fair system. By the way you are using old money argument against aristocracy and then pointing to new money people who created all of their wealth through innovation investments and savvy deals. There may have been some shady things too but largely it was created wealth that did not exist before. [-] vlipfire -4 points 22 hours ago Wealth can be created through human ingenuity. Bezos has built the backbone of the internet in AWS which has allowed others to create many many jobs and other sources of wealth. There are time saving things for all sorts of people you used to only be able to read when you were sitting down with a book. Now someone will read to you while you drive. You can be cooking and ask a device to look up a recipe without having to clean off your hands. Don't get caught up looking up and saying it's not fair that he has all that and I don't. Capitalism is inherently the most fair system in that you get whatever value you are able to produce. In reality there are loopholes and exploitable situations and those should be regulated but that is a bit besides the point. When looking at the wealth gap don't forget to look at how much more wealth and convenience the people with 1% have than they used to. In the last 300 years extream global poverty has dropped from 97% to 9% in the USA that dropped from 78% to 3.5% If you are unhappy with your life and you want change by all means advocate for change. And if you know of a better method then we should all be listening but Marxism is an understandable false view on labor and production. Ask yourself this, if socialism was the right answer why has capitalism been so successful. The trick is humans are not perfect and socialism requires everyone be virtuous. Capitalism requires that people are selfish to work properly. Because people are not perfect capitalism is a better system in reality. I am not under the illusion I'll change your mind but I appreciate you trying to rationalize your opinion rather than calling me an idiot like most in this sub when I Express a contrarian opinion. T- FornhubForReal 1 point 18 hours ago I think if everyone would be thinking about that as we do, capitalism would work wonderfully. We are aware of the dangers it brings and the social inequalities it can cause and have the moral compass necessary to stop those from happening. But the people who destroy our society, the ultra rich, will be there in any system and will exploit any. Do you think money does not rule in real world applications of other ideologies? It definitely does. That's what I wanted to say. The reason for all the issues is not the system but the people who exploit it. * (-) FornhubForReal 1 point 17 hours ago I think a mix of both would work just fine. My primary issue with socialism can be found on a smaller scale. Is it fair that a doctor earns more than construction worker? Or a CEO? I think so, because their work requires a lot more skills and they have to carry much more responsibility. And I think state owned companies are no solution either, because history shows us that that mostly ended in exploitation of everyone instead of nobody. I think the relations are just off. I have no issue with people setting up businesses and profiting off of those. But people don't need to get super rich. That's why high taxing on those people and companies is important to fund working social security systems. Workers should organize in unions much more. The issue I see is that one should definitely give more power to the people. The US voting system is undemocratic. In my opinion, a presidential democracy unifies too much power in one person. A working democracy needs plurality and a working democracy is needed to enforce the necessary changes. One would need to change the rewrite the constitution, and that in itself should be impossible. Defense of capitalism bruh. Also centrism

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the "happy ever after" politics of Westeros in the aftermath of S8: The freefolk would gladly accept Jon Snow as King-beyond-the-Wall but he "doesn't want it", so they return to their leaderless The situation in the North is dire. Queen Sansa's decision to secede from the Seven Kingdoms has left her war-torn realm with no state. Of all the peoples in Westeros, they suffered the most from the attack of the Night King, and their numbers, especially men hope of economic or military aid from the South. The North has been for many years at constant war at home and abroad, it of fighting age, are few. Still, as their young boys and girls come of age they will want to prove their worth the only way the suffered the most from the winter, and a large chunk of its northeast lands was utterly destroyed by the Army of the Dead. The freefolk know how: by ravaging and pillaging the southern kneelers. The Night's Watch is no more, there is a massive hole in the inexperienced, distrusting and undiplomatic queen will have to rely on the depleted resources of a ruined Winterfell to Eutit Wall, and the North by itself (since Queen Sansa declared independence) does not have the resources to protect the entire northern deal with not only plenty of external threats, but also disloyal vassals. The relatively unscathed House Glover will border, especially after the first line of defence, House Umber, was completely destroyed. Soon small (but growing) raiding remind everyone wholl listen that Sansa is more a Southerner than a Northerner, and also the sceptical (and sexist) smallfolk and parties of Wildlings will be terrorising the North, while their more organised tribes will settle the Gift and beyond. minor lords won't forget that the Queen cowered in the crypts while their chosen King in the North bled against the Army of the Dead. The Vale is ha decent position in the aftermath of the Dragonpit ceremony. Their expeditionary force to aid Sansa Stark took a The Dalrt beating against the Army of the Dead, but their wider forces remain intact. However, the fondness that Robin Arryn and many of the other Vale lords had for Sansa does not really extend to Bran Stark. One of the few important lessons that Robin recalls from his Watfe Despite all the ceremony at the Dragonpit, the Iron Islands never planned to actually subject themselves to Bran Stark. In Yara's mother is that it is best to sit-out external conflicts and remain well defended in one's home. Therefore, King's Landing should Harwed mind, what was clear was that she was no longer bound by her promise to Daenerys to put an end to the reaving. Sure the Iron Fleet expect no aid from the Vale in the coming wars, even if they do remain nominally loyal. And since she proclaimed her desire to Ts S was severly depleted and her manpower was critical. But what better way to replenish resources than to loot? What better way to have the North stand isolated, Sansa should likewise not hold much hope that the Vale will again ride to save her. There will recover their manpower than to take salt wives? In any case, it's not like her prey was in any better condition: the North was likely be enough internal difficulties to keep the Vale occupied anyway, since Robin hardly seems like the most competent ruler vulnerable, war-torn, with no fleets of its own and with no allies since they seceded, and her remaining forces had gathered and the Mountain Clans will be agitating again after Tyrion Lannister failed to honour his debt and deliver them the Eyrie. Raaga plenty of experience and intelligence fighting there. Plus her allies in Dorne assured her that she could expect their support if Otherwise, the many wars that will soon grip Westeros will mostly ignore the closed-off Vale. she managed to keep King Bran's sister too occupied to ssend help supporting his throne. And if the rest of Westeros slips again into war, well the Riverlands look very appetising as well. Even the Westerlands and the Reach are looking less strong than they used to. Indeed, in due time all of the Seven Kingdoms might be back on the menu for Yara's reavers. ouowle slyenntes ky In Essos, the Iron Bank's frustrations continue to mount. It is clear to them that the Starks will never be able to honour the Crown's debts, especially after the new King nominates an illiterate cutthroat as Master of Coin. They will have already started looking for alternatives to back in Westeros, with the Reach and Dorne looking like decent bets. They will also be considering stuing Kiaken aiding military incursions from Essos. Indeed, many an ambitious second-born prince and adventurous mercenary warband captain The Riverlands are a mess. Of the Kingdoms south of the Neck, they suffered by far the most and its lands and peoples are will be looking at the war-exhausted, disunited (and dragon-less!) Seven Kingdoms and fancy their chances to carve out a new thoroughly exhausted. Unfortunately for them, they are to be ruled by Edmure Tully, who has been repeatedly been shown to be a Kingdom of their own. The North in particular looks very exploitable, and what better way to pressure the Stark of King's Landing weak and bumbling idiot. He might not even be sure whether his allegiance is to the North (as it had been during the days of King than to invade his homeland, the Iron Bank will be thinking... Hanclards Robb) and more-Tully-than-Stark Queen Sansa, or to that weird boy King Br . Either way, given how spent its armed forces are, in the upcoming wars the Riverlands will play no major role other than potentially as a passing ground for foreign Te Ene armies, and it is not implausible that they will be torn apart and split by other Powers. oedy Gt The Crownlands are in tatters. They have been at war for years and their beating heart, the huge metropolis of King's Landing, is a eands depopulated ruin. the throne sits a distant unfamiliar King with no legitimacy in the eyes of the smallfolk, who delegates his rule to aands the hated Imp and a crude and incompetent Master of Coin who prioritises brothels over crucial infrastructure reconstruction. With little hope of improving their situation in these circumstances, the survivors will seek refuge elsewhere, condemning the wadendan The lords and smallfolk of the Westerlands are seething. They are supposed to accept the hated Starks and the Imp as their Crownlands to a spiral of worsening economy and manpower. This lack of nearby sources of taxes and recruits leaves the core Facit Gldes Tch overlords? Never, they'll say. Or at least, not once they re-gather their strength. The Westerlands suffered a lot: their gold powerbase of King Bran in a critical condition. Yet the King also seenms incapable of acknowledging this dire situation, replying mines are depleted, their men were constantly away fighting Tywin's and Cersei's wars and few of them returned from the fury of "I am no longer Bran" or "I have to go now". terlands the Dragon Queen, and Casterly Rock has been sacked. But the Westerlands are still a large and populous realm, and their pride Cly R (Vualandkdy demands that soon they shall rebel against the Starks. It is clear to them that King's Landing lacks the strength to enforce its Ke tts rule anyway. Having failed to support a King/Queen in the Iron Throne, they will now settle for independence. Some of the more a lowborn outsider with Gendry "Baratheon" would arrive in Storms End to claim it but would be promptly ignored. He Kngs Lante practically minded lords will even have suggested a confederation with the also rebellious Reach, with which they enjoy no rulership experience, no army backing him, and his supposed legitimacy was granted by the deceased Dragon Queen substantial economic integration. Furthermore, in the inevitable incoming wars, they will fancy their chances to expand into the Hashon who the people of the Stormlands never met. Instead, the many secondary Houses will continue to jockey for position virtually defenceless Riverlands. as they had been since the previous Lannister rulers of the Iron Throne apparently failed to nominate someone to rule there. Not feeling any particular attachment to Bran Stark or the Imp, they will also take note that the strength of King's Landing Bntack H tertolg is greatly diminished, and they will have heard the disloyal noises elsewhere in the Seven Kingdoms. The Stormlands lost many Gry V Oldmge inlands Braage men in Stannis' fights, but were otherwise untouched by war. If they can get over their internal disputes, the lords Lang Tae Staws Ed of the Stormlands will have a good shot at independence or at pushing their own candidate to the throne in King's Landing. Suaed Silands The only thing that gives them pause is the strength of their rivals in Dorne, so sending negotiators south will be a top priority. And The Reach took a beating at the hand of Jamie Lannister. And even the houses that sided with Queen Cersei suffered significantly from the retaliation of the Dragon Queen. Nonetheless, the Reach remains the most populous and most prosperous of all the Westerosi kingdoms. Refugees from the Crownlands will have headed there after the Dragonfire devastation, with their memories of Tyrell generosity still fresh, thus helping replenish the manpower of the region. Oldtown still thrives and is once again the largest Banghlt city in Westeros. Some of the coastal lords will even entertain ambitions of allying their navies with the Ironborn to conquer colonies in the now-separated North and ensure control of the fur and pelts trade routes. However, with the Tyrells gone, it is Dorne, political instability at the top notwithstanding, has so far been virtually unscathed. Its armies are at full strength, unclear who actually rules in the Reach. Clearly the nominee from King's Landing, Bronn the sell-sword, would be hanged if he ever well drilled and ready for action. The Dornish are well aware that they are in the best position for a new Westerosi war. approached Highgarden, and his appointment will have been viewed as so insulting that few Reacher Ilords would entertain Obviously submission to Bran Stark was never truly considered, and clearly not a single Golden Dragon of tax will be flowing to The T The Toven loyalty to King Stark. The Hightowers seem to be the most likely to assume control. The Tarlys, the most likely to side with King's Landing. The remaining question in their mind is whether to try to find some distant Targaryen relative to push as King's Landing, have lost all their political capital after engaging in the brazenly corrupt elevation of Sam Tarly to Grand ruler of the Seven Kingdoms (yes, including the North, that impudent Stark girl would have to be taught some humility), or to grc Maester. If the Reach manages to consolidate its strength, it will again be a power to be reckoned with in Westeros and would be simply settle for independence. An annexation of some (or all) of the Stormlands or the Reach is also being considered by the more Sundnane able to easily throw off the yoke of the Broken King. Rivalry with Dorne would then be their number one obstacle, but as Olenna hawkish lords. Discreet diplomatic missions are already being dispatched to Essos and the other Kingdoms to discuss the possible eCutes proved, it is possible to cooperate with the Dornish. A united Reach and Dorne front could sweep through the Seven Kingdoms. post-Stark order. What is certain is that in a matter of months, if not weeks, the Dornishmen will be marching. ', the "happy ever after" politics of Westeros in the aftermath of S8

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