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Claiming to be an author getting screwed by a publisher only works if you know anything at all about... anything at all.: it's official: the publisher won't publish my book and still gets to hold onto the rights for three more years. 3 Original Poster so how's your shitty shitty week going? 42 comments share save hide give award report [-) Original Poster the thing is i sent them the entire manuscript, they accepted it and were supposed to send me the contract and a check via private courier. during the window it was supposed to show up i got sick, and spent three weeks in the hospital. the courier supposedly delivered the contract but i never signed or cashed the check. while i was in the hospital the publisher had a change in management and the book was canceled. they couldn't provide proof that i had signed the contract or cashed the check but somehow convinced the judge to rule they could still hold the rights until the rights revert as the contract i didn't sign said. I'm not to sure how this all went down since i was having an attorney handle it, i just got a letter saying i lost and they keep the rights til June 2021. TL;DR: The publisher gets to keep the rights for another year and a half... or maybe three years, based on the post's title. Either way, no contract was signed, nor was any money received. permalink save parent report give award reply [-] I'm not a lawyer, but I know a thing or two about rights management. If you never signed a contract and you never cashed the check, they don't own jack squat. In the absence of documentation, intellectual property defaults to the originator; to you. There isn't even a question of proof here: You wrote the book, they don't have a contract, and you never took any money. TL;DR: That isn't how rights management works. Were I in your position, I would have a different attorney take a look at that letter claiming that you "lost." Something here doesn't add up in the slightest. permalink save parent report give award reply [-)] This. I work with rights management in a publishing house and there is something really fishy here. The burden of proof is on the publisher to prove that they've licensed the rights from you; without a signed contract or cashed advance, they're going to have a very hard time doing that. Publishers tend to keep meticulous records of their contracts for exactly this reason - companies merging, buying each other out, changing management, etc, is a pain in the butt for the rights department and the paper trail helps keep everything straight. Try another lawyer and ask to see the contract - you should have your own copy of the signed and fully executed contract anyway, so you need to get that as soon as possible. Granted, I'm in South America so some things may be different, but this definitely merits a second look. Also note that many publishing contracts stipulate a much shorter time limit for the publisher to produce the book, or the rights return to the owner - a contract can have a 5 year term but a line that says "book must be published within 12 months of effective date or contract is void..." or something along those lines. That would be something else to look at in the contract. If they've cancelled the book and won't be doing it working that specified time frame (if there is one), the rights will return to you sooner. TL;DR: That isn't how rights management works. Good luck. permalink save parent report give award reply [-) Original Poster i'm assuming the lawyer fucked up the case or the publisher claimed that i cashed the check. i would not be surprised to see that a family member forged my name to the check and cashed it and spent it. these are fucking people who let me lay in a bed nearly dying for almost ten years to get a monthly tugboat because my mom as she put it in a room full of people "was too good to work". TL;DR: "No, no, my family forged my signature in order to cash the check. Also, the publisher just kind of forgot about me until I personally approached a different one. Please ask me about this other book idea that I have." not to mention the publishing house spent a lot of time claiming they had never heard of me till i went to a competitor and tried to get a deal to publish the book and then lo and behold they remember everything. needless to say I'm betting a family member cashed the check while i was in the hospital sick and that's why i lost. but i can't speak to anyone until Monday at the law offices. until then I'm just going to try to overcome writers block and work on my current book about my childhood. "the saint of hellfire and the demon of the crossroads." permalink save parent report give award reply [-] i would not be surprised to see that a family member forged my name to the check and cashed it and spent it. That is a very different story than "the publisher screwed me over." not to mention the publishing house spent a lot of time claiming they had never heard of me TL;DR: "Why didn't your agent do anything?" Is that what your agent told you, or are you assuming that? It isn't uncommon for one place or another to take a second look at their slush after learning that a query was accepted elsewhere. It's also a pretty standard tactic for an agent to reference said acceptance when following up on a previous query. Actually, while we're on the topic, what has your agent had to say about all of this? permalink save parent report give award reply [-1 Original Poster first yes i assume that's why i lost. secondly during the time i was dealing with the company they had a huge reconfiguration and supposedly according to my now deceased agent the paperwork and filing was in chaos since they liquidated a large part of thier staff during a restructuring. the agent i had has been dead for a few years from cancer. TL;DR: "My agent has been dead for three years. Also, my lawyer is grossly incompetent. Oh, and the publisher underwent a massive restructuring." but honestly I'm assuming since the letter says the court found that the contract was valid and enforceable means someone put my name on the check. even if they don't publish they still get a certain window of time before the rights revert back to me. the letter says the court found that the rights will revert back to me in june 2021. permalink save parent report give award reply [-) Either I'm confused about something, or there's a very big piece missing here. First you said this: while i was in the hospital the publisher had a change in management and the book was canceled. Now you're saying this: according to my now deceased agent the paperwork and filing was in chaos since they liquidated a large part of thier staff during a restructuring. the agent i had has been dead for a few years from cancer. So, your agent – who has were sent a check? Also, this same agent was somehow unavailable for comment after that same restructuring resulted in your book being cancelled? Were they psychic, or have I completely misunderstood a crucial detail? after you told you about a restructuring at a publisher tha dead for years - occurre but honestly I'm assuming since the letter says the court found that the contract was valid and enforceable means someone put my name on the check. Why didn't your attorney check any of this with you? Come to think of it, I don't understand this timeline at all. Please tell me what I have wrong: • You write a book. • This book is accepted by a publisher. • Somewhere in here, your agent dies. • You are told that you will be receiving a check and a contract via private courier. • You fall ill. TL;DR: "Bullshit." • During this time, the publisher undergoes a massive restructuring. • As a result of the restructuring, your book deal is cancelled. • You retain a lawyer to deal with the situation. • Said lawyer proves to be insanely incompetent. • You are informed that the publisher is retaining ownership of the rights. [-] Original Poster I'M a broke ass college student whose half way through getting his bachelors and haven't started on the student loans just found out the publisher gets to hold on to the rights to part of my life story well for two years i just looked at the date. june 2021 i get the rights back unless they publish it. those book rights were going to pay for my college. I'm sorry to be so blunt, but absolutely none of this adds up. I went through and checked your post history, and you've made it abundantly clear that you're a college student who was counting on the sale of your book, which - in your own words, offered in this thread Somehow, that was going to net you enough to pay off your student loans, via a check from a publisher that was going directly to you before a contract was even signed. Despite needing the money, you are able to retain an intellectual property lawyer who is presumably working pro bono on a case that they immediately and grossly foul up. Oh, and your agent is dead, but you never got another in the years since that individual's alleged passing. is an autobiography. The above and below comments were taken from other threads. That isn't how any of this works. [-] Original Poster I don't know if you've completely misunderstood something, if you've left out an insane amount of detail, or if you're just flat-out lying. Given what I know of the publishing industry, rights management, and writing in general, I am inclined to go with that last option. You can convince me otherwise by telling me the name of the publishing house that was supposedly going to pay for your book. found out today the publisher gets to keep my book till june 2021 which i was going to use to pay my college loans and shit off. was really counting on that money and the trips promoting the book. permalink save parent report give award reply [-) Original Poster i've probably left out a great deal of detail and my memory from the time is not the best. i was in the hospital for serious physical illness. it was not going to take care of all of it but it would take a sizeable chunk of the student loans. my father's family loaned me the money for the lawyer, my father's family is rich i am not. i was supposed to pay back the money upon successfully winning the rights back. I'm still represented by my old agents firm but haven't spoken to them since October when i told them i was working on my new book, sent them an outline and two chapters. TL;DR: Bullshit. i never really spoke all that much to the first agent except during the time he was getting the publisher (HarperCollins) to buy the book. permalink save parent report give award reply [-] [-] i've probably left out a great deal of detail Could be, for sure, but just in case. L()/ Convenient. ETA: OP shared the alleged publisher. I sincerely hope this is a troll because if not, it sounds like you're being scammed. =( I've worked with that publisher several times, have seen their contracts, and know how they generally operate. None of what you've described here is consistent with them or the way they work. |my memory from the time is not the best. So, your memory is good enough to write an autobiography, but it isn't good enough to remember the details of what would have been the biggest milestones in your life? Lest we forget, these were milestones which allegedly involved three separate triumphs, a brush with death, a massive conspiracy against you, and a cast of characters colorful enough to be worthy of a goddamned soap opera. It's actually pretty difficult to get a one-off book deal with them - they're huge and can afford to be picky. Autobiographies for your age range have to be fantastically unique, like "child soldier in Africa" unique. Not to say you're not interesting, but that's something to consider in itself. Who exactly accepted your manuscript? Were you in contact via email? Send me the domain name (@what.com) of that email address to compare with my contacts over it was not going to take care of all of it but it would take a sizeable chunk of the student loans. there. Nope. You're a first-time author who is purportedly offering an autobiography. Unless you go to the cheapest-ever college on the planet, you wouldn't have received anything even approaching "a sizeable chunk of the student loans." They are also irritatingly rigorous about "no signed contract = no deal." I believe their signatures are dated as well, so if your signature was forged, you can prove it to be dated to when you were in the hospital and not signing contracts (though what meds were you on? Is it possible you don't remember?). If you're telling the truth, get a copy of your contract immediately; I'd be happy to take a look at it if you like. I have others of theirs I can compare it to. Then you can see about getting a different lawyer. my father's family loaned me the money for the lawyer, my father's family is rich i am not. Why wouldn't your father have loaned you money for college, then? That seems like a much better investment than coughing up thousands of dollars for a lawyer whom you apparently found in the coupon section of "Incompetence Monthly." Furthermore, if your father was concerned enough about the cash to want a repayment, why wouldn't he have hired the lawyer for you? permalink save parent report give award reply I'm still represented by my old agents firm but haven't spoken to them since October Nope. In the event of a rights dispute, your agent (and their firm) is an interested party. Furthermore, if you're still represented by them, then your claims of being sent a check (again, before you had actually signed a contract) make even less sense now. Oh, and that same contract would have gone through your agency, who would have had a vested interest in seeing the money. TL;DR: "Quit your bullshit." |when i told them i was working on my new book, sent them an outline and two chapters. Nope. Publishing hasn't worked that way in decades. | HarperCollins Nope. Harper Collins has not undergone any restructuring since 2010. If you're a college student now, then you would have needed to have written your "memoirs" when you were too young to have any. Next time you decide to make up a story, try to get the details right. You also might want to learn how to write before you pretend to be an author. permalink save parent report give award reply Claiming to be an author getting screwed by a publisher only works if you know anything at all about... anything at all.
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THE LIGHT BULB: Trump makes it clear in this statement that he opposes progress, innovation and efficiency...: The light bulb – they got rid of the light bulb that people got used to. The new bulb is many times more expensive and – I hate to say it – it doesn't make you look as good. Of course, being a vain person, that's very important to me. It's like - it gives you an orange look. I don't want an orange look. Has anyone noticed that? So we'll have to change those bulbs in at least a couple rooms where I am in the White House.. We have a situation where we're looking very strongly at sinks and showers. And other elements of bathrooms – where you turn the faucet on, in areas where there's tremendous amounts of water, where the water rushes out to sea because you could never handle it – and you don't get any water. You turn on the faucet and you don't get any water. They take a shower and water comes dripping out, just dripping out, very quietly, dripping out. People are flushing toilets 10 times, 15 times, as opposed to once. They end up using more water. . You go into a new building, or a new house or a new home, and they have standards where you don't get water. You can't wash your hands practically, so little water comes out of the faucet. And the end result is you leave the faucet on and it takes you much longer to wash your hands. For the most part, you have many states where they have so much water, it comes down – it's called rain. They don't know what to do with it. A lot of things we do are based on common sense. .. If I didn't get elected you wouldn't have a steel industry. .. We weren't going to have a steel industry. THE LIGHT BULB: Trump makes it clear in this statement that he opposes progress, innovation and efficiency...

THE LIGHT BULB: Trump makes it clear in this statement that he opposes progress, innovation and efficiency...

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It's called rain —Trump. It's real, also LED bulbs make you look orange.: The light bulb – they got rid of the light bulb that people got used to. The new bulb is many times more expensive and – I hate to say it – it doesn't make you look as good. Of course, being a vain person, that's very important to me. It's like – it gives you an orange look. I don't want an orange look. Has anyone noticed that? So we'll have to change those bulbs in at least a couple rooms where I am in the White House. . We have a situation where we're looking very strongly at sinks and showers. And other elements of bathrooms – where you turn the faucet on, in areas where there's tremendous amounts of water, where the water rushes out to sea because you could never handle it – and you don't get any water. You turn on the faucet and you don't get any water. They take a shower and water comes dripping out, just dripping out, very quietly, dripping out. People are flushing toilets 10 times, 15 times, as opposed to once. They end up using more water. .. You go into a new building, or a new house or a new home, and they have standards where you don't get water. You can't wash your hands practically, so little water comes out of the faucet. And the end result is you leave the faucet on and it takes you much longer to wash your hands. For the most part, you have many states where they have so much water, it comes down – it's called rain. They don't know what to do with it. A lot of things we do are based on common sense. .. If I didn't get elected you wouldn't have a steel industry. .. We weren't going to have a steel industry. It's called rain —Trump. It's real, also LED bulbs make you look orange.

It's called rain —Trump. It's real, also LED bulbs make you look orange.

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Found out I was pregnant and boyfriend left me cause he couldn’t handle it?! But then I get this ‘nice guy’ in my inbox knowing I’m pregnant...: 1 TELUS LTE I TELUS LTE 9 46% I TELUS LTE 9 46% 9 46% 10:05 AM 10:06 AM 10:05 AM Messenger Messenger Messenger throw it out there. But will Btw you should get to know me and who I am hun Just saying lol 12:12 AM always be a friend anytime u want to talk,vent,laugh or or Happy Birthday ya Sexy all of the above Bitch... Real!!!! Have a great day If ur ever down for a innocent full body rub maybe just a little foreplay for ya to take the edge off call on me hun just saying. Nothing but love and respect between you and only always. No l'm Would really enjoy a Real friend as well 9:12 AM He is a douche but l'm still 7:02 AM pregnant with his kid. What would that say about me?! I'm sorry I'm also just not interested in you in that way. Hey. I'm still pregnant with someone else's kid so that would be totally inappropriate far from those Asshole Sweetheart. Know I keep to my own 9:39 AM 7:53 AM Наppy Birthday again Haha no doubt,l'm not a deuce bag anyway why would u be. I'm in a toldly Sorry thought he was a deuce lol I said for play hehe all good no worries thought I would different class of men. Most 12:40 AM would say gentleman class. So yes not ur type have a awesome hump day throw it out there. But will always be a friend anytime u want to talk,vent,laugh or or Btw you should get to know me and whoI am hun all of the above +1 Just saying lol Have a great day DealllII. Aa Aa Aa Found out I was pregnant and boyfriend left me cause he couldn’t handle it?! But then I get this ‘nice guy’ in my inbox knowing I’m pregnant...
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"I don't celebrate": ll AT&T LTE O 93% ED 8:22 PM Follow Posts moweww.hch Dear fellow white people, stop celebrating Thanksgiving. Usually when I give advice I say "or do whatever you want", but not on this one. Stop celebrating Friendsgiving. Stop having a potluck and gathering people together on this day. Stop telling your self you're not celebrating you're just gathering together to be thankful or whatever other nonsense. Stop going home on this day. Stop attending someone else's gathering last minute because you feel lonely. Stop even if it hurts your mom's feelings really deeply. Stop even if it triggers your partner's abandonment issues. Stop even if you're lonely and depressed at the holidays. Colonization is not something that happened just in the past. We do it every day, and on this day we show how much we actually don't even care that we're doing it. We care but not enough to endure conflict and loneliness in our lives. Stop normalizing colonialism. Stop enabling that normalization by your families by participating in any way while feeling superior because at least you have internal conflict or some analysis. Stop wishing people "happy holiday" this week. Stop saying thank you when random people do the same to you. Respond "thank you for your well wishes but I don't celebrate genocide and theft" or even simply "I don't celebrate". We are going to have to give things up. This one is not a big deal. Sit it out. Endure the discomfort. Endure the loneliness. Endure the awkwardness. You CAN handle it. Go to therapy. Work on your resilience. Do ancestor work. Get curious about your discomfort. Have a freaking Fall dinner two weeks ago. Eat some sad ass ravioli from trader joes and harden the eff up. We need to stop cuddling up at the bosom of demonic whiteness. We are addicted to the comfort. It feels familiar because we were raised on it, but it's dis-eased. We feed it "I don't celebrate"
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I guess nothing is safe from being politicized nowadays. Not even turkey and mashed potatoes are safe: Dear fellow white people, stop celebrating Thanksgiving. Usually when I give advice I say "or do whatever you want", but not on this one. Stop celebrating Friendsgiving. Stop having a potluck and gathering people together on this day. Stop telling your self you're not celebrating you're just gathering together to be thankful or whatever other nonsense. Stop going home on this day. Stop attending someone else's gathering last minute because you feel lonely. Stop even if it hurts your mom's feelings really deeply. Stop even if it triggers your partner's abandonment issues. Stop even if you're lonely and depressed at the holidays. Colonization is not something that happened just in the past. We do it every day, and on this day we show how much we actually don't even care that we're doing it. We care but not enough to endure conflict and loneliness in our lives. Stop normalizing colonialism. Stop enabling that normalization by your families by participating in any way while feeling superior because at least you have internal conflict or some analysis. Stop wishing people "happy holiday" this week. Stop saying thank you when random people do the same to you. Respond "thank you for your well wishes but I don't celebrate genocide and theft" or even simply "I don't celebrate". We are going to have to give things up. This one is not a big deal. Sit it out. Endure the discomfort. Endure the loneliness. Endure the awkwardness. You CAN handle it. Go to therapy. Work on your resilience. Do ancestor work. Get curious about your discomfort. Have a freaking Fall dinner two weeks ago. Eat some sad ass ravioli from trader joes and harden the eff up. We need to stop cuddling up at the bosom of demonic whiteness. We are addicted to the comfort. It feels familiar because we were raised on it, but it's dis-eased. We feed it I guess nothing is safe from being politicized nowadays. Not even turkey and mashed potatoes are safe
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Umm ...now you know Annie: Necrophilia Some creepy fucking thing where some deusch of a human being screws some dead person. Generally done by guys cuz it's kinda hard for a chick to get it on with someone who's dead and not cooperating... but there is the whole rigamortis thing... Annie: What's necrophilia Mr. Mister? Mr. Mister: Well.. um... Annie, I don't want to go into this with you... Annie: Please Mr. Mister. I can handle it unreassuring thumbs up* Mr. Mister: Uhhh... someone who loves dead people dear. Annie: *sound of crickets in the background* huh? Chloe: You heard the man. Someone who LOVES dead people *suggestive eyebrow waggling* Annie: Wait... what? Mr. Mister.. Do they do... sexual... things with them? Chloe: *bangs head into desk* Mr. Mister: Yes Annie. Yes they do. Annie: Like, OMG! Mr. Mister: OK. Back to the actual topic at hand- Annie: Wait! Do these people like live together in cults? Chloe: *Do you retards live in a cult to keep urselves out of the gene-pool?* Mr. Mister: No... They do this on their own... Annie: Ooooooh... Who are they? Do they dig up graves? Sophie: No. They're usually psychopaths that murder people and then *ahem* with the dead bodies. Annie: O_o Chloe: Sometimes they work at morgues. Annie: What? 0_0 Chloe: At morgues. Ya know... granny dies... the morgue guy gets he... sometimes with very different intents in mind then regular society. Annie: WAAAAH! Mr. Mister: OKAY THEN. New subject Annie: *sniffles Made by WebShotAPP Umm ...now you know Annie
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