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False equivalence and female objectification: reverseharem Frank Cho added 2 new photos - with Frank D Cho. 2 hrs 0 Well, this just happened. Milo Manara, master artist and storyteller, came in at the last ten minutes of my Art and Women panel and handed me a special gift in appreciation for fighting censorship- an original watercolor painting of Spider-Woman. The packed auditorium went wild. Wow. I'm just speechless. CHO! CME CRap RGan CRP SENG DHENTAM is it time for frank cho and milo manara to die or what aawb That's basically a naked woman l'm YELLING houroftheanarchistwolf What a pervert. What the FUCK does he not know how clothes work? What the hypothetical fuck is she wearing then if we can see all that? auntiewanda It's like how bath towels in comics miraculously wrap completely around breasts. Or how even when injured and dead on the ground women in comics have to be twisted into "sexy" poses. Or how women in comics walk like they're in high heels even barefoot. OH, SURE THROW THAT IN MY FACE- LISTEN, KIDDO, IVE KNOWN CABLE A LO0ONG TIME-- It's the only way men know how to draw women, because to them female characters are only there to be sexy. They only think of "women" as exploitative costumes and camera angles, high heels and titillation. Sex objects to ogle, plot objects to further male heroes' narratives and drama, not heroes to cheer for. brithwyr I'm sorry, I was labouring under the impression that this was the crowd that thought women should wear what they want..? auntiewanda And that applies to fictional women who are depicted by men how? You can't apply agency in the plot to something metatextual when it comes to fictional characters. brithwyr Come on, let's not pretend this is a male exclusive thing. UH... GENIUS, BILLIONAIRE, PLAYBOY, PHILANTHROPIST. A auntiewanda We're going to have this argument are we? Not to mention you're deviating from the original point that attributing agency to fictional characters' clothing is asinine. What you have here are images of power, and do you really believe these characters are designed with titillating heterosexual women and bisexual and homosexual men in mind? Because I don't think you do. This is why the Hawkeye Initiative exists. Take common female poses in comics, put a man in the role, and see how "empowering" and "strong" it actually looks: You like what bub? you see, HOOK TAXI HLOO Empowerment VSNULLANE YOU DON'T REMEMBER NAMED DICONE NO. GARTHP DUSTIN? VICP I CANT RECALL LILITHP GAR? YOU ARE BORING 00000 Also: BEING A BIG IMPOSSIBLY- MUSCLED HULK IS A MALE POWER FANTASY IT HAS JACK TO DO WITH WHAT A FEMALE SUCH AS MYSELF FINDS ATTRACTIVE IM TIRED OF YOU GRIPING THAT CHICKS W COMIC BOOKS ARE SEXUALLY OBJECTIFIED! THE DUDES ARE, TOO! THEY'RE BIG IMPOSSIBLY MUSCLED HULKS! FIRST OF ALL, GOOGLE "FALSE EQUIVALENCE." AND, YOU KNOW WHAT? SEEING HIS EYES IS IMPORTANT. THEY SHOULD BE LARGE AND NTENSE HERE LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT I MEAN FIM GONNA GET THE HOTS FOR BATMAN HE HAS TO BE BULT FOR DEXTERITY NOT POWER. LETS MAKE HIM MORE LEAN. LETS THROW W SOME ROSY CHEEKS AND KISSABLE LIPS. TH-THAT ART MAKES ME FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WELCOME TO THE BACKGROUND RADIATION OF MY LIFE. SHORTPACKEDCOM feminism-is-radical He got the painting for fighting against 'censorship. Note that they handed him a gross design of a female being objectified, because at the end of the to be allowed to day, that is all they really wa objectify women. They don't care about censorship in general it is about their ability to sexualise and degrade women without consequence. schnerp You can see her butthole for chrissakes pmastamonkmonk I think the best imagery l've seen to explain the difference between what men think male objectification is vs what women actually want to see is the Hugh Jackman magazine covers. EXTRA GET RIPPED IN JUST 10 MINUTES MUSC FITESS SREAKT TECHOL TORCH FAT 25 SUPERHERO SPECIALI HUGH JACKMANS The Routine That Bullt the Star of LOGAN WAYSTO BURN iTOFF BUILD YOUR BIG PECS BODY WITHOUT WEIGHTS OURTOTAL TRAINING PROGRAM 100REPSPLAN TUT IFYOU CAN SURVIVEIT, YOU WILL GROW! Hugh Jackman on a men's magazine. He's shirtless and buff and angry. He's imposing and aggressive. This is a male power fantasy, it's what men want to be and aspire to - intense masculinity. AUGUST 2013 Goods DROP 5 Ibs. NOW Housekcepin 30 Minute Dinners 5 Minute Desserts Нugh Jackman's Recipe for Get out of the kitchen FAST THE JOY OF KEEPSAKES .WITHOUT THE CLUTTER p. 101 Romance What keeps his marriage rock-solid Savings Plans for Late Starters Fix your money mistakes GOOD HOUSEKEEPING SUMMER SKIN SECRETS BEST PRODUCTS, TIPS & TRICKS OJUST JARED Hugh Jackman on a women's magazine. He looks like a dad. He looks like he's going to bake me a quiche and sit and watch Game of Thrones with me. He looks like he gives really good hugs. Men think women want big hulking naked men in loin cloths which is why they always quote He-Man as male objectification - without realizing that He Man is naked and buff in a loin cloth because MEN WANT HIM TO BE. More women would be happy to see him in a pink apron cutting vegetables and singing off- key to 70s rock. Men want objects. Women want PEOPLE. aglassroseneverfades This is the first time I have EVER seen this false equivalence articulated so well. Thank you. #important 307,579 notes False equivalence and female objectification
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what-the-fandomm: 2sunchild2: kukumomoart: chancethereaper: aglassroseneverfades: pmastamonkmonk: schnerp: feminism-is-radical: auntiewanda: brithwyr: auntiewanda: brithwyr: auntiewanda: houroftheanarchistwolf: aawb: starsapphire: is it time for frank cho and milo manara to die or what That’s basically a naked woman I’m YELLING What a pervert. What the FUCK does he not know how clothes work? What the hypothetical fuck is she wearing then if we can see all that? It’s like how bath towels in comics miraculously wrap completely around breasts. Or how even when injured and dead on the ground women in comics have to be twisted into “sexy” poses. Or how women in comics walk like they’re in high heels even barefoot.  It’s the only way men know how to draw women, because to them female characters are only there to be sexy. They only think of “women” as exploitative costumes and camera angles, high heels and titillation. Sex objects to ogle, plot objects to further male heroes’ narratives and drama, not heroes to cheer for.  I’m sorry, I was labouring under the impression that this was the crowd that thought women should wear what they want..? And that applies to fictional women who are depicted by men how? You can’t apply agency in the plot to something metatextual when it comes to fictional characters.  Come on, let’s not pretend this is a male exclusive thing. We’re going to have this argument are we? Not to mention you’re deviating from the original point that attributing agency to fictional characters’ clothing is asinine.  What you have here are images of power, and do you really believe these characters are designed with titillating heterosexual women and bisexual and homosexual men in mind? Because I don’t think you do. This is why the Hawkeye Initiative exists. Take common female poses in comics, put a man in the role, and see how “empowering” and “strong” it actually looks:  Also:  He got the painting for fighting against ‘censorship.’ Note that they handed him a gross design of a female being objectified, because at the end of the day, that is all they really want, to be allowed to objectify women. They don’t care about censorship in general it is about their ability to sexualise and degrade women without consequence. You can see her butthole for chrissakes I think the best imagery I’ve seen to explain the difference between what men think male objectification is vs what women actually want to see is the Hugh Jackman magazine covers. Hugh Jackman on a men’s magazine. He’s shirtless and buff and angry. He’s imposing and aggressive. This is a male power fantasy, it’s what men want to be and aspire to - intense masculinity. Hugh Jackman on a women’s magazine.  He looks like a dad. He looks like he’s going to bake me a quiche and sit and watch Game of Thrones with me. He looks like he gives really good hugs. Men think women want big hulking naked men in loin cloths which is why they always quote He-Man as male objectification - without realizing that He Man is naked and buff in a loin cloth because MEN WANT HIM TO BE. More women would be happy to see him in a pink apron cutting vegetables and singing off-key to 70s rock. Men want objects. Women want PEOPLE. This is the first time I have EVER seen this false equivalence articulated so well. Thank you. bro you can literally see every fold of her pussy that just isn’t how fabric works Lol body painting literally Clothes don’t suction themselves around tiddies.If that was the case I’d be wearing hoodies all year i mean there is dangerous objectification for male characters, but it’s not prevalent in written or drawn sources because that doesn’t harm the person and therefore isn’t relevant. it’s only something to bring into the conversation when you’re talking about how it affects the actors.male actors are sometimes forced to starve for days so that they can get scenes where their muscles are stood out (there’s a really good post with article links about this i’ll try to find it), but these drawings don’t affect an actual personit’s a completely different subjectand i mean for god’s sake you can’t counter the fact that someone deliberately drew her with her coochie out with some bullshit about how male characters are hyper-masculine in a glorified way: Frank Cho added 2 new photos with Frank D Cho. 2 hrs Well, this just happened. Milo Manara, master artist and storyteller, came in at the last ten minutes of my Art and Women panel and handed me a special gift in appreciation for fighting censorship- an original watercolor painting of Spider-Woman. The packed auditorium went wild. Wow. I'm just speechless CHO! NERT SE prasLE THE caMERa 2G CRap! IG a stock N HEET CRP SERNG P 1RT ENTM FR MA RA what-the-fandomm: 2sunchild2: kukumomoart: chancethereaper: aglassroseneverfades: pmastamonkmonk: schnerp: feminism-is-radical: auntiewanda: brithwyr: auntiewanda: brithwyr: auntiewanda: houroftheanarchistwolf: aawb: starsapphire: is it time for frank cho and milo manara to die or what That’s basically a naked woman I’m YELLING What a pervert. What the FUCK does he not know how clothes work? What the hypothetical fuck is she wearing then if we can see all that? It’s like how bath towels in comics miraculously wrap completely around breasts. Or how even when injured and dead on the ground women in comics have to be twisted into “sexy” poses. Or how women in comics walk like they’re in high heels even barefoot.  It’s the only way men know how to draw women, because to them female characters are only there to be sexy. They only think of “women” as exploitative costumes and camera angles, high heels and titillation. Sex objects to ogle, plot objects to further male heroes’ narratives and drama, not heroes to cheer for.  I’m sorry, I was labouring under the impression that this was the crowd that thought women should wear what they want..? And that applies to fictional women who are depicted by men how? You can’t apply agency in the plot to something metatextual when it comes to fictional characters.  Come on, let’s not pretend this is a male exclusive thing. We’re going to have this argument are we? Not to mention you’re deviating from the original point that attributing agency to fictional characters’ clothing is asinine.  What you have here are images of power, and do you really believe these characters are designed with titillating heterosexual women and bisexual and homosexual men in mind? Because I don’t think you do. This is why the Hawkeye Initiative exists. Take common female poses in comics, put a man in the role, and see how “empowering” and “strong” it actually looks:  Also:  He got the painting for fighting against ‘censorship.’ Note that they handed him a gross design of a female being objectified, because at the end of the day, that is all they really want, to be allowed to objectify women. They don’t care about censorship in general it is about their ability to sexualise and degrade women without consequence. You can see her butthole for chrissakes I think the best imagery I’ve seen to explain the difference between what men think male objectification is vs what women actually want to see is the Hugh Jackman magazine covers. Hugh Jackman on a men’s magazine. He’s shirtless and buff and angry. He’s imposing and aggressive. This is a male power fantasy, it’s what men want to be and aspire to - intense masculinity. Hugh Jackman on a women’s magazine.  He looks like a dad. He looks like he’s going to bake me a quiche and sit and watch Game of Thrones with me. He looks like he gives really good hugs. Men think women want big hulking naked men in loin cloths which is why they always quote He-Man as male objectification - without realizing that He Man is naked and buff in a loin cloth because MEN WANT HIM TO BE. More women would be happy to see him in a pink apron cutting vegetables and singing off-key to 70s rock. Men want objects. Women want PEOPLE. This is the first time I have EVER seen this false equivalence articulated so well. Thank you. bro you can literally see every fold of her pussy that just isn’t how fabric works Lol body painting literally Clothes don’t suction themselves around tiddies.If that was the case I’d be wearing hoodies all year i mean there is dangerous objectification for male characters, but it’s not prevalent in written or drawn sources because that doesn’t harm the person and therefore isn’t relevant. it’s only something to bring into the conversation when you’re talking about how it affects the actors.male actors are sometimes forced to starve for days so that they can get scenes where their muscles are stood out (there’s a really good post with article links about this i’ll try to find it), but these drawings don’t affect an actual personit’s a completely different subjectand i mean for god’s sake you can’t counter the fact that someone deliberately drew her with her coochie out with some bullshit about how male characters are hyper-masculine in a glorified way
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Men vs women in comics: 6:52 189% satan-in-a-box riddlemeinthedark emmafrost-archive Frank Cho added 2 new photos - with Frank D Cho. 2 hrs Well, this just happened. Milo Manara, master artist and storyteller, came in at the last ten minutes of my Art and Women panel and handed me a special gift in appreciation for fighting censorship- an original watercolor painting of Spider-Woman. The packed auditorium went wild. Wow. I'm just speech less CHO! is it time for frank cho and milo manara to die or what aawb That's basically a naked woman l'm YELLING houroftheanarchistwolf What a pervert. What the FUCK does he not know how clothes work? What the hypothetical fuck is she wearing then if we can see all that? auntiewanda It's like how bath towels in comics miracu lously wrap completely around breasts. Or how even when injured and dead on the ground women in comics have to be twisted into "sexy" poses. Or how women in comics walk like they're in high heels even barefoot OH, SURE, THROW THAT IN MY FACE LISTEN KIDDO,IVE KNOWN CABLE A LO0ONG TIME-- It's the only way men know how to draw women, because to them female characters are only there to be sexy. They only think of "women" as exploitative costumes and camera angles, high heels and titillation. Sex objects to ogle, plot objects to further male heroes' narratives and drama, not heroes to cheer for. brithwyr I'm sorry, I was labouring under the impres- sion that this was the crowd that thought women should wear what they want..? auntiewanda And that applies to fictional women who are depicted by men how? You can't apply agency in the plot to something metatextual when it comes to fictional characters. brithwyr Come on, let's not pretend this is a male exclusive thing. UH... GENIUS, BILLIONAIRE, PLAYBOY, PHILANTHROPIST auntiewanda We're going to have this argument are we? Not to mention you're deviating from the original point that attributing agency to fictional characters' clothing is asinine. What you have here are images of power, and do you really believe these characters are designed with titillating heterosexual women and bisexual and homosexual men in mind? Because I don't think you do. This is why the Hawkeye Initiative exists. Take common female poses in comics, put a man in the role, and see how "empowering" and "strong" it actually looks: L what you see HOOR bub? TAXI Empowerment YOU DON'T REMEMBER ANYONE NAMED DICK GARTHP DUSTINP vic? I CANT RECALL LILITHP GAR? ARE BORING Also: TM TIRED OF YOU GRIPNG THAT CHICKS IN COMIC BOOKS ARE SEXUALLY OUJECTIFIED! THE DUDES ARE TOO! THEYRE BIG UMPOSSIBLYMUSCLED HULKS BEWG A BIG MPOSSIBLY MUSCLED HULK IS A MALE POWER FANTASY IT HAS JACK TO DO WITH WHAT AFEMALE SUCH AS MYSELF FWDS ATTRACTIVE FIRST OF ALL GOOGLE "FALSE EQUMALENCE AND YOU KNOW WHAT? SEENG HIS EYES IS MPORTANT. THEY SHOULD BE LARGE AND INTENSE HERE LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT I MEAN FIMGONNA GET THE HOTS FOR BATMAN HE HAS TO BE BULT FOR DEXTERITY NOT POWER LETS MAKE HM MORE LEAN LETS THROW IN SOME ROSY CHEEKS AND KISSABLE LIPS TH THAT ART MAKES ME FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WELCOME TO THE BACKGROUND RADIATION OF TY LIFE feminism-is-radical He got the painting for fighting against 'censorship. Note that they handed him a gross design of a female being objectified, because at the end of the day, that is all they really want, to be allowed to objectify women. They don't care about censorship in general it is about their ability to sexualise and degrade women without consequence. schnerp You can see her butthole for chrissakes pmastamonkmonk I think the best imagery I've seen to explain the difference between what men think male objectification is vs what women actually want to see is the Hugh Jackman magazine covers EXTRA GET RIPPED IN JUST 10 MINUTES- MUS BREAKTRU TEC WEIGHT LOSS FIT SS TORCH FAT 25 SUPERHERO SPECIAL HUGH JACKMAN The Routine That Bellt the Star of LOGAN WAYST BURN ITOFF BUILD YOUR BIG PECS BODY WITHOUT WEIGHTS OUR TOTAL TRAINING PROGRAM 100 REPSPLAN IF YOU CAN SURVIVEIT, YOU WILL GROW! Hugh Jackman on a men's magazine. He's shirtless and buff and angry. He's imposing and aggressive. This is a male power fantasy, it's what men want to be and aspire to - intense masculinity. AUGUST 2013 Gool DROP 5 lbs NOW Frousekeoping 30Minute Dinners Desserts 5 Minute Hugh Jackman's Get out of the kitchen FAST Recipe for Romance THE JOY OF KEEPSAKES ...WITHOUT THE CLUTTER p. 10 What keeps his marriage rock-solid Savings Plans for Late Starters Fix your money mistakes SUMMER SKIN SECRETS BEST PRODUCTS TIPS& TRICKS OJUST JARED Hugh Jackman on a women's magazine. He looks like a dad. He looks like he's going to bake me a quiche and sit and watch Game of Thrones with me. He looks like he gives really good hugs Men think women want big hulking naked men in loin cloths which is why they always quote He-Man as male objectification - without realizing that He Man is naked and buff in a loin cloth because MEN WANT HIM TO BE. More women would be happy to see him in a pink apron cutting vegetables and singing off-key to 70s rock. Men want objects. Women want PEOPLE. aglassroseneverfades This is the first time I have EVER seen this false equivalence articulated so well. Thank you. 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