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Fire, Future, and Guns: NY AG Underwood @NewYorkStateAG To be clear, it was the Trump ad- min that decided to give criminals the tools to build untraceable, undetectable 3-D printed guns at the touch of a button That's why we sued. on.ny.gov 2LznSLv Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump I am looking into 3-D Plastic Guns being sold to the public. Already spoke to NRA, doesn't seem to make much sense! <p><a href="http://amalgamasreal.tumblr.com/post/176527642745/friendly-neighborhood-ehrhardt-kasaron" class="tumblr_blog">amalgamasreal</a>:</p><blockquote> <p><a href="https://friendly-neighborhood-ehrhardt.tumblr.com/post/176491719675/kasaron-1r3l4nd13-kasaron-1r3l4nd13" class="tumblr_blog">friendly-neighborhood-ehrhardt</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://kasaron.tumblr.com/post/176491236610/1r3l4nd13-kasaron-1r3l4nd13-kasaron" class="tumblr_blog">kasaron</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="https://1r3l4nd13.tumblr.com/post/176486816978/kasaron-1r3l4nd13-kasaron" class="tumblr_blog">1r3l4nd13</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://kasaron.tumblr.com/post/176486495640/1r3l4nd13-kasaron-liberalsarecool-another" class="tumblr_blog">kasaron</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="https://1r3l4nd13.tumblr.com/post/176486223328/kasaron-liberalsarecool-another-trump-policy" class="tumblr_blog">1r3l4nd13</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://kasaron.tumblr.com/post/176486019980/liberalsarecool-another-trump-policy-creating" class="tumblr_blog">kasaron</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://liberalsarecool.com/post/176483209782/another-trump-policy-creating-the-worst-outcome" class="tumblr_blog">liberalsarecool</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>Another <b>Trump</b> policy creating the worst outcome. #3DPrintedGuns</p> <p>Trump saying ‘it doesn’t make much sense’ should be his campaign slogan.</p> <p>The abdication to the NRA is GOP law.</p> </blockquote> <p>The tools to build 3D printed guns have existed since at least the Obama Administration.</p> <p style=""><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberator_(gun)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberator_(gun)</a><br/></p> <p style="">The gun was designed in 2013. </p> <p>The issue was not the existence of the gun itself, but the fact that if the Liberator (and other 3D printed gun files) were “weapons of war” that would possibly violate ITAR.</p> <p>That adjudication resulted in the government (and ITAR specifically) being sued by Cody Wilson. The government settled out of court and openly admitted their wrongdoing as part of the settlement. </p> <p>I will repeat; the 3D printing and manufacture of firearms was <i>never</i> illegal in the US, only the international distribution of the files themselves. Even the distribution of the files within US borders and possession of the files themselves are all and were all legal. </p> </blockquote> <p>I have no issues with people owning guns legally but I don’t think I’m ok with them being able to print a gun. </p> </blockquote> <p style="">Would you be willing to explain why?</p> </blockquote> <p>See, my reasons only make sense to me and the environment I grew up in but I don’t see a reason for an individual to be able to make a gun whenever they want. I know most probably won’t do anything illegal with the gun but I also think the gun might not be safe to use…I have never used a 3D gun or know much about them so they could be perfectly safe to use. </p> </blockquote> <p>Generally, polymer is a less than stellar material to make a gun out of; that’s why the Liberator is basically a single-shot low-power gun. It’s a proof of concept to show it Can Be Done and thereby challenge the idea of controlling ownership of firearms as a whole.</p> <p>Since it has been adjudicated that code (and files) are themselves a form of speech; sharing that “speech” in an open forum is, by default, legal and protected.</p> <p>The issue is, people (for a variety of reasons) already DO make untracable firearms, from 80% lowers, from raw stock, from scrap metal, etc. They’re rarely if ever used in criminal activities, mostly because criminals can just buy an illegal (but legitimately manufactured) firearm either which were illegally purchased themselves, stolen, or gotten thanks to programs like ATFs Fast and Furious and other gunwalking schemes.</p> </blockquote> <p>as for fears about criminals building untraceable guns, they can almost certainly do it better for cheaper with scrap metal &amp; metal working shop tools. 3d printers arent cheap &amp; polymer guns dont last, as <a class="tumblelog" href="https://tmblr.co/miMjDZnDWnZqZODmSVuibaw">@kasaron</a> has already noted. assuming that they dont just buy black market factory made guns, which are much better quality for much less effort.</p> <p>&amp; some people have this ridiculously idea that a polymer gun is totally undetectable by security scanners &amp; can be taken ANYWHERE. yeah, they arent, &amp; they still require metal bullets.</p> </blockquote> <p>Anyone who’s worried about 3d printed guns has <b>NEVER </b>actually had or used a 3d printer. I’ve got 5 of them, ranging from $300 chinese DIY kits to $4500 “prosumer” fully assembled devices, and not a single one can make a gun that I’d be willing to fire with any form of reliability or safety. The tolerances and durability just aren’t there. </p> <p>The best I could make would be that Liberator up there and the chances that it might just explode in my hand on the first shot aren’t low. </p> <p>The people who’ve made the fully functional AR lowers aren’t doing it using a 3D printer you can just buy off the shelf, they’d using industrial grade SLA resin printers that <b>START</b> in the 5 figures and if you want the metal additive printers you’re not walking away without spending 6 figures. At that price point they can just buy metal working equipment and make real metal guns by the dozen in the time it would take to print a single gun. </p> <p>Now: I can’t speak for the future, 3d printers might change, but the direction they’re moving in now does not lend to making guns in the least bit; and stifling the entire branch of technology out of idiotic fear of a possibility is the last thing we need to do.</p> <p>Also: THERE’S ALREADY OVER 300 MILLION GUNS IN THE US AND IT WOULD BE WAY EASIER AND CHEAPER TO JUST BUY/STEAL ONE OF THOSE THAN PRINT ONE. </p> </blockquote> <p>This is what I’m saying. The school I work at has a 3-D printer and by no means would it be capable of making a gun you would want to use. Not only would trying to prevent the program from being downloaded be an enormous waste of time, most criminals wouldn’t even be bothered with it when there are much easier ways to get a gun.</p>

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Assassination, cnn.com, and Complex: <p><a href="https://priceofliberty.tumblr.com/post/171052175078/when-can-a-government-kill-its-own-people-rip" class="tumblr_blog">priceofliberty</a>:</p> <blockquote><h2><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/10/politics/us-killing-americans/">When can a government kill its own people?</a></h2><p style=""> <b>R.I.P. Abdulrahman al-Awlaki.</b> He would be a young man now. Abdulrahman was killed alongside his 17-year old cousin by a U.S. drone strike on October 14, 2011. He and his father were both U.S. citizens killed by drone strikes. Abdulrahman’s murder has been called a “mistake” by the government, but no one has been held accountable for the loss of his life. <br/></p><p>The Obama Administration, with the complicity of Attorney General Eric Holder, <a href="https://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=http%3A%2F%2Fjolt.law.harvard.edu%2Fdigest%2Fnational-security%2Fdepartment-of-justice-white-paper-reveals-united-states-position-on-lethal-force-operations-targeting-u-s-citizens-abroad&amp;t=ZmVhN2U3ZGE0ZDI0NmFlOGFlNmQ0OWYxZTU5OGU5ZmYxMzM1NDA0NSxyVGZzazdjTQ%3D%3D&amp;b=t%3A_S8dLg6KLAVryk75cPCPYg&amp;p=https%3A%2F%2Fpriceofliberty.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F116342066828%2Fthe-obama-administration-with-the-complicity-of&amp;m=1">released a white paper</a> justifying the use of Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (“drones”) against any target in the world they have deemed a threat (<a href="https://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2013%2F07%2F07%2Fus%2Fin-secret-court-vastly-broadens-powers-of-nsa.html&amp;t=ZTEyZjU4MmVhZmU4ZjJlYWRkZTk2OWY3OThiZDU0ZWY4MTc2M2Y1MixyVGZzazdjTQ%3D%3D&amp;b=t%3A_S8dLg6KLAVryk75cPCPYg&amp;p=https%3A%2F%2Fpriceofliberty.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F116342066828%2Fthe-obama-administration-with-the-complicity-of&amp;m=1">through a secret process governed by a secret court</a>) including American citizens. Worse still, targets are chosen by the “<a href="https://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motherjones.com%2Fkevin-drum%2F2012%2F10%2Fdisposition-matrix&amp;t=MGY3MDAwZjMxZmQyYTMxZDU4NjlmYTgxYjM3OTA0NmQyNDYzZGJiNixyVGZzazdjTQ%3D%3D&amp;b=t%3A_S8dLg6KLAVryk75cPCPYg&amp;p=https%3A%2F%2Fpriceofliberty.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F116342066828%2Fthe-obama-administration-with-the-complicity-of&amp;m=1">disposition matrix</a>,” a complex database which utilizes coded algorithms to <a href="https://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fcommentisfree%2F2012%2Foct%2F24%2Fobama-terrorism-kill-list&amp;t=OGI4ZTk4ZDEzYzEwNTVlNjE4MTUzNjNhOGNlM2ZhMTU3YTMyNWIxZixyVGZzazdjTQ%3D%3D&amp;b=t%3A_S8dLg6KLAVryk75cPCPYg&amp;p=https%3A%2F%2Fpriceofliberty.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F116342066828%2Fthe-obama-administration-with-the-complicity-of&amp;m=1">ascertain threats based upon surveillanc</a>e acquired by the <a href="https://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eff.org%2Fnsa-spying&amp;t=NTBjNWNjZmI5OGMwZmMzY2FkYjY4ZmM1MWIyN2U4Mjg2NDgxNmZmNyxyVGZzazdjTQ%3D%3D&amp;b=t%3A_S8dLg6KLAVryk75cPCPYg&amp;p=https%3A%2F%2Fpriceofliberty.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F116342066828%2Fthe-obama-administration-with-the-complicity-of&amp;m=1">NSA’s illegal programs</a>.  #lesseroftwoevils</p><p>tl;dr The paper concludes that the <b>government’s interest in protecting its citizens from imminent attacks will outweigh the target’s interest in avoiding “erroneous deprivation of [his] life”</b> which is exactly what happened to an innocent 16-year-old American named <a href="https://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fsa%3Dt%26rct%3Dj%26q%3D%26esrc%3Ds%26source%3Dweb%26cd%3D1%26ved%3D0CB8QFjAA%26url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%252Fwiki%252FAbdulrahman_al-Awlaki%26ei%3D_WUsVbyzOOS0sAS6yYGgDQ%26usg%3DAFQjCNGUpMziI3o6WhbWcKwjAL2Fln18Dw%26sig2%3DdxgKZpZeLaCtaO79T5_8mQ%26bvm%3Dbv.90790515%2Cd.cWc&amp;t=Mjc3ZjYwNTUyZmFjNTFhNmE5MzJjMTMxYjY1NjgzMDUxN2QyMmNlNCxyVGZzazdjTQ%3D%3D&amp;b=t%3A_S8dLg6KLAVryk75cPCPYg&amp;p=https%3A%2F%2Fpriceofliberty.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F116342066828%2Fthe-obama-administration-with-the-complicity-of&amp;m=1">Abdulrahman al-Awlaki</a>. </p><p> A US federal judge dismissed a lawsuit filed against the government by the families of three American citizens killed by drones in Yemen, saying senior officials cannot be held personally responsible for money damages for the act of conducting war. (<a href="https://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fworld%2F2014%2Fapr%2F05%2Fdrone-killings-case-thrown-out-in-us&amp;t=OGYwMmMyNTU2ZDgxMjg0MDA1ZGRiMzUyMDdhMjM0YzZiYjhjN2U5OCxHbHozS0FXYQ%3D%3D&amp;b=t%3A_S8dLg6KLAVryk75cPCPYg&amp;p=https%3A%2F%2Fpriceofliberty.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F81935383934%2Fthefreelioness-a-us-federal-judge-has-dismissed&amp;m=1">x</a>) Let us be clear: if this an act of conducting war, the war is clearly against all people who oppose American Imperialism, along with their loved ones, whether they be violent opposition or not. And in this case, the act of war was implemented against an American child.</p><p>A while ago we heard the government was considering <a href="https://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alternet.org%2Fcivil-liberties%2Famerica-preparing-murder-its-5th-citizen-remote-assassination-founders-are-turning&amp;t=YzEyM2U0M2E2NThlZjY4YWFlNGExMTg5ODMzOGJhMTNmNTZiODk3MixHbHozS0FXYQ%3D%3D&amp;b=t%3A_S8dLg6KLAVryk75cPCPYg&amp;p=https%3A%2F%2Fpriceofliberty.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F81935383934%2Fthefreelioness-a-us-federal-judge-has-dismissed&amp;m=1">assassinating its 5th American citizen by drone</a> without charges or trial, but shortly thereafter the administration announced it would <a href="https://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=http%3A%2F%2Fthefreelioness.com%2Fpost%2F77306482639%2Fwhite-house-no-more-information-about-drone-killings&amp;t=M2E1NjdhZmVjMTUyYWFhODBhZmFhNjBhZjY0NjZiMzYyOWNmYzM0NixHbHozS0FXYQ%3D%3D&amp;b=t%3A_S8dLg6KLAVryk75cPCPYg&amp;p=https%3A%2F%2Fpriceofliberty.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F81935383934%2Fthefreelioness-a-us-federal-judge-has-dismissed&amp;m=1">no longer be informing the public of who it decided to kill</a> by drone strike.</p></blockquote> <p>But&hellip; but Obama is a Woke Bae™!</p>

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Abc, America, and Children: New York and Washington Threaten to Sue Trump for the Termination of DACA @balleralert New York and Washington Threaten to Sue Trump for the Termination of DACA-blogged by @thereal__bee ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀ Attorney generals from both NewYork and Washington have threatened to sue the WhiteHouse amid Trump's decision to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀ ABC reports that Attorney Generals Bob Ferguson of Washington and Eric Schneiderman of New York issued statements Monday concerning the matter. ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀ “Ending this policy represents an assault on the values that built this state and this nation. The president’s action would upend the lives of hundreds of thousands of young people who have only ever called America their home, including roughly 42,000 New Yorkers,” Schneiderman said in a statement along with New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo. “It will rip families apart, sow havoc in our communities and force innocent people — our neighbors, our friend, and our relatives — to live in fear.” ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀ “If President Trump follows through on his reported decision to cancel DACA after a six-month delay, the Washington Attorney General’s Office will file suit to halt this cruel and illegal policy and defend DACA recipients,” Ferguson said in his statement. “We have been working closely with legal teams around the country, and we expect to be joined by other states in this action.” ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀ DACA was a program started in 2012 by the Obama administration. The program allows certain unauthorized immigrants who were brought to the U.S. as children, to apply for deferred action on deportation and for work permits. ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀ Ferguson has taken legal action against the Trump administration before. He was one of the first state attorneys general to pursue legal action against the travel ban Trump tried to implement earlier this year.

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cnn.com, Facts, and Family: FREEDOM ISN'T FREE, HONOR OUR HEROES 5 SLAIN SERVICEMEN Lance Cpl. Sauire Gunnery Sgt. Sgt. Carson US. Navy Logistics A. Holmquist SP Randall Smith Staff Sgt. "Skip" K. Wells Thomas J.Suivan David A. Wyatt 🇺🇸 Remember those we lost in chattanooga. We lost five heroes who were defending our country. 🇺🇸 Sgt. Carson Holmquist, 25; Gunnery Sgt. Thomas Sullivan, 40; Lance Cpl. Squire "Skip" Wells, 21; Staff Sgt. David A. Wyatt, 35, and U.S. Navy Petty Officer 2nd Class Randall Smith were killed in the attack. 🇺🇸 Chattanooga Police Officer Dennis Pedigo and USMarine Sgt. DeMonte Cheeley were wounded but survived. 🇺🇸 We have forgotten the story of unarmed brave men who were cowardly murdered by a Moslem terrorist. We have forgotten that our military is unarmed in our recruiting offices nation wide and we must all change that so another attack can be prevented. What stopped the terrorist? An Armed Marine and an Armed Police Officer. We must continue honoring the men who died in this senseless attack. When this Attack happen and even after lame stream media including CNN push the propaganda it was a lone man shooter but after all the facts were investigated in fact it was a Moslem refugee with ties to radical groups and performed another Moslem terrorist act in our nation. The Moslem family even defended this pos act. We will never forget how the obama administration play down this terrorist attack! tennessee USMC tipofthespear marinecorps sailor military shipmate groundpounder marinerecruiter navyrecruiter igmilitia rememberthefallen rememberourheroes rip secondamendment NRA semperfidelis SemperFi usnavy

🇺🇸 Remember those we lost in chattanooga. We lost five heroes who were defending our country. 🇺🇸 Sgt. Carson Holmquist, 25; Gunnery Sgt. Tho...