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        Bad, Children, and Fail: POINT/COUNTERPOINT
 This War Will Destabilize The Entire Mideast
 Region And Set Off A Global Shockwave Of
 Anti-Americanism vs. No It Won't
 Nathan Eckert and Bob Sheffer
 f
 3/26/03 3:00pm. SEE MORE: OPINION
 This War Will Destabilize The Entire Mideast
 Region And Set Off A Global Shockwave Of Anti-
 Americanism
 George W. Bush may think that a war against Iraq is the
 solution to our problems, but the reality is, it will only serve
 to create far more.
 This war will not put an end to anti-Americanism; it will fan
 the flames of hatred even higher. It will not end the threat of
 weapons of mass destruction; it will make possible their
 further proliferation. And it will not lay the groundwork for
 the flourishing of democracy throughout the Mideast; it will
 harden the resolve of Arab states to drive out all Western (i.e
 Nathan Eckert
 U.S.) influence.

 If you thought Osama bin Laden was bad, just wait until the countless children
 who become orphaned by U.S. bombs in the coming weeks are all grown up. Do
 you think they will forget what country dropped the bombs that killed their
 parents? In 10 or 15 years, we will look back fondly on the days when there
 were only a few thousand Middle Easterners dedicated to destroying the U.S
 and willing to die for the fundamentalist cause. From this war, a million bin
 Ladens will bloom
 And what exactly is our endgame here? Do we really believe that we can install
 Gen. Tommy Franks as the ruler of Iraq? Is our arrogance and hubris so great
 that we actually believe that a U.S. provisional military regime will be
 welcomed with open arms by the Iraqi people? Democracy cannot possibly
 thrive under coercion. To take over a country and impose one's own system of
 government without regard for the people of that country is the very antithesis
 of democracy. And it is doomed to fail
 A war against Iraq is not only morally wrong, it will be an unmitigated
 disaster

 No It Won't
 No it won't
 It just won't. None of that will happen
 You're getting worked up over nothing. Everything is going to
 be fine. So just relax, okay? You're really overreacting
 "This war will not put an end to anti-Americanism; it will fan
 the flames of hatred even higher"?
 It won't
 Bob Sheffer
 "It will harden the resolve of Arab states to drive out all
 Western (i.e. U.S.) influence"?
 Not really
 "A war against Iraq is not only morally wrong, it will be an unmitigated
 disaster"?

 Sorry, no, I disagree
 "To take over a country and impose one's own system of government without
 regard for the people of that country is the very antithesis of democracy"?
 You are completely wrong
 Trust me, it's all going to work out perfect. Nothing bad is going to happen
 It's all under control.
 Why do you keep saying these things? I can tell when there's trouble looming
 and I really don't sens
 se that right now. We're in control of this situation, and
 we know what we're doing. So stop being so pessimistic
 Look, you've been proven wrong, so stop talking. You've had your say already
 Be quiet, okay? Everything's fine.
 You're wrong
sexhaver:
this is from 2003
        

            
            

                
                
                    Bad, Children, and Fail: POINT/COUNTERPOINT
 This War Will Destabilize The Entire Mideast
 Region And Set Off A Global Shockwave Of
 Anti-Americanism vs. No It Won't
 Nathan Eckert and Bob Sheffer
 f
 3/26/03 3:00pm. SEE MORE: OPINION
 This War Will Destabilize The Entire Mideast
 Region And Set Off A Global Shockwave Of Anti-
 Americanism
 George W. Bush may think that a war against Iraq is the
 solution to our problems, but the reality is, it will only serve
 to create far more.
 This war will not put an end to anti-Americanism; it will fan
 the flames of hatred even higher. It will not end the threat of
 weapons of mass destruction; it will make possible their
 further proliferation. And it will not lay the groundwork for
 the flourishing of democracy throughout the Mideast; it will
 harden the resolve of Arab states to drive out all Western (i.e
 Nathan Eckert
 U.S.) influence.

 If you thought Osama bin Laden was bad, just wait until the countless children
 who become orphaned by U.S. bombs in the coming weeks are all grown up. Do
 you think they will forget what country dropped the bombs that killed their
 parents? In 10 or 15 years, we will look back fondly on the days when there
 were only a few thousand Middle Easterners dedicated to destroying the U.S
 and willing to die for the fundamentalist cause. From this war, a million bin
 Ladens will bloom
 And what exactly is our endgame here? Do we really believe that we can install
 Gen. Tommy Franks as the ruler of Iraq? Is our arrogance and hubris so great
 that we actually believe that a U.S. provisional military regime will be
 welcomed with open arms by the Iraqi people? Democracy cannot possibly
 thrive under coercion. To take over a country and impose one's own system of
 government without regard for the people of that country is the very antithesis
 of democracy. And it is doomed to fail
 A war against Iraq is not only morally wrong, it will be an unmitigated
 disaster

 No It Won't
 No it won't
 It just won't. None of that will happen
 You're getting worked up over nothing. Everything is going to
 be fine. So just relax, okay? You're really overreacting
 "This war will not put an end to anti-Americanism; it will fan
 the flames of hatred even higher"?
 It won't
 Bob Sheffer
 "It will harden the resolve of Arab states to drive out all
 Western (i.e. U.S.) influence"?
 Not really
 "A war against Iraq is not only morally wrong, it will be an unmitigated
 disaster"?

 Sorry, no, I disagree
 "To take over a country and impose one's own system of government without
 regard for the people of that country is the very antithesis of democracy"?
 You are completely wrong
 Trust me, it's all going to work out perfect. Nothing bad is going to happen
 It's all under control.
 Why do you keep saying these things? I can tell when there's trouble looming
 and I really don't sens
 se that right now. We're in control of this situation, and
 we know what we're doing. So stop being so pessimistic
 Look, you've been proven wrong, so stop talking. You've had your say already
 Be quiet, okay? Everything's fine.
 You're wrong
sexhaver:
this is from 2003
                    
                
            

            
                
                
sexhaver:
this is from 2003

                
            
            
        

    

    

        
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        Crying, God, and Lol: LEVITICUS 19:9 107
 man
 have sexual telations with
 yoursell
 have sexual relations
 with her.
 vomit
 on
 29"'Everyone who does
 respect
 ave sexual relations with both
 a woman and

 JUDGES 8:5 223
 ater
 er
 rink
 Grasping
 go down
 your hands
 crying out
 go down
 give
 into your
 go down
 ands.
 down
 on the seashore
 your hand
 the inection
 you ridiculedt Go o
 inside
 Abimeles
 to the entrance of
 killed as they fle
 in Arumah, s
 and his clan out of Sh
 ext day the people
 the fields, and this v
 3So he took his r
 three companies a
 the fields. When he
 I get to the edge
 an

 714 JEREMIAH 28:13
 Do not let
 name
 you
 or
 harm
 your heart.
 gath-
 er
 A Letter to the Exiles
 raise
 the sword,
 against them
 said:they
 scorn
 and reproach,
 not listened
 and again
 For they have
 again
 have not listened

 you
 ver
 . You became
 very
 1You took
 your father
 an
 rubbed salt
 in No one looked on you
 with pity or had compassion er
 for on the day
 you were born you were despised
 your sons and daughters
 not
 enoughYou slaughtered
 I looked
 enough
 at you and saw that you were

 ACTS 27:41 1021
 should
 en
bluemantle:

Recently my grandmother found out I’m queer. Her response was to tell me that she disapproves of me living with my “friend” (i.e. my girlfriend) and that I should give up my vile queer ways and become a Christian (Lol). She even sent me a bible.  Here are its remains, which I made into black-out poetry.
Poem 1: Bisexual (from Leviticus 19:9)– “Have sexual relations with her.  Have sexual relations with him.  Have sexual relations with both a woman and a man.  Have sexual relations with yourself. Vomit on everyone who does not respect you.”
Poem 2: Fisting (from Judges 8:5)– “water/ lap the water/ drink/go down to drink/your hands/go down/I give into your hands/go down/encouraged/down/on the seashore/the whole hand/your hand/inside/I get to the edge/and shout/grasping/crying out/Beth/Beth/Beth/Beth/Beth/God/I came”
Poem 3: A Letter to the Exiles (from Jeremiah 28:13) – “Ze said: ‘Do not let lies name you, nor harm your heart. Gather. Raise the sword against them. They scorn and reproach, for they have not listened– again and again have not listened.’ ”
Poem 4: Child (from Ezekiel 16:22) – “Your father and your mother rubbed salt in. No one looked on you with pity or had compassion enough for you, for on the day you were born you were despised. Live! Grow.  I looked at you and saw you were enough.”
Poem 5: Father (from Ezekiel 16:22) – “You never adored us. You became very angry. You took some out on us. Your sons and daughters were not enough? You slaughtered– in all your detestable practices– our youth.”
Poem 6: Misandry (from Acts 27:41) – “Dangerous men should be broken.”

        

            
            

                
                
                    Crying, God, and Lol: LEVITICUS 19:9 107
 man
 have sexual telations with
 yoursell
 have sexual relations
 with her.
 vomit
 on
 29"'Everyone who does
 respect
 ave sexual relations with both
 a woman and

 JUDGES 8:5 223
 ater
 er
 rink
 Grasping
 go down
 your hands
 crying out
 go down
 give
 into your
 go down
 ands.
 down
 on the seashore
 your hand
 the inection
 you ridiculedt Go o
 inside
 Abimeles
 to the entrance of
 killed as they fle
 in Arumah, s
 and his clan out of Sh
 ext day the people
 the fields, and this v
 3So he took his r
 three companies a
 the fields. When he
 I get to the edge
 an

 714 JEREMIAH 28:13
 Do not let
 name
 you
 or
 harm
 your heart.
 gath-
 er
 A Letter to the Exiles
 raise
 the sword,
 against them
 said:they
 scorn
 and reproach,
 not listened
 and again
 For they have
 again
 have not listened

 you
 ver
 . You became
 very
 1You took
 your father
 an
 rubbed salt
 in No one looked on you
 with pity or had compassion er
 for on the day
 you were born you were despised
 your sons and daughters
 not
 enoughYou slaughtered
 I looked
 enough
 at you and saw that you were

 ACTS 27:41 1021
 should
 en
bluemantle:

Recently my grandmother found out I’m queer. Her response was to tell me that she disapproves of me living with my “friend” (i.e. my girlfriend) and that I should give up my vile queer ways and become a Christian (Lol). She even sent me a bible.  Here are its remains, which I made into black-out poetry.
Poem 1: Bisexual (from Leviticus 19:9)– “Have sexual relations with her.  Have sexual relations with him.  Have sexual relations with both a woman and a man.  Have sexual relations with yourself. Vomit on everyone who does not respect you.”
Poem 2: Fisting (from Judges 8:5)– “water/ lap the water/ drink/go down to drink/your hands/go down/I give into your hands/go down/encouraged/down/on the seashore/the whole hand/your hand/inside/I get to the edge/and shout/grasping/crying out/Beth/Beth/Beth/Beth/Beth/God/I came”
Poem 3: A Letter to the Exiles (from Jeremiah 28:13) – “Ze said: ‘Do not let lies name you, nor harm your heart. Gather. Raise the sword against them. They scorn and reproach, for they have not listened– again and again have not listened.’ ”
Poem 4: Child (from Ezekiel 16:22) – “Your father and your mother rubbed salt in. No one looked on you with pity or had compassion enough for you, for on the day you were born you were despised. Live! Grow.  I looked at you and saw you were enough.”
Poem 5: Father (from Ezekiel 16:22) – “You never adored us. You became very angry. You took some out on us. Your sons and daughters were not enough? You slaughtered– in all your detestable practices– our youth.”
Poem 6: Misandry (from Acts 27:41) – “Dangerous men should be broken.”

                    
                
            

            
            
        

    

    

        
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