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deducecanoe: ourobousfamilia: deducecanoe: chickwithmonkey: potootagath: wingleader: wakeupslaves: the-goddamazon: LOL man. never forget white people did nothing first neither the best, they sleep and eat false propaganda, Ugh, why the shit does that have to turn into a race thing? Why does EVERYTHING have to turn into a race thing? because white people have made sure that everything is about race as proved by the fact that when you say explorer, you think of a bunch of white guys walking the world and discovering it ~exotic wonders~ even though Zheng He travelled through Asia, to the Middle East, and even East Africa. But you’d likely never heard of him before. Same reason you never heard of Ahmad Ibn Fadlan, an Arab traveller who, as early as the 10th century, went to the Volga area for diplomatic reasons. He wrote about it, much as Marco Polo would do later for his own travels, and is one of our sources on what viking were like (and by all accounts, he wrote about them more accurately than western scholars of the same period did) Oh, or Ibn Battuta who travelled throughout Africa long before europeans did, and even went to Europe himself. And that’s just some example of Muslim medieval travel writers Everything is about race because white people keep telling everyone that their race is the only one who every got anything done. i have heard of precisely zero non-european explorers ever in my life, and that fucking sucks. this exhibit is amazing and i need to learn more. That boat is a frickin aircraft carrier comparatively. Holy crap. And no. Never heard a peep. Zhenghe went to over 40 countries in Asia and Africa and probably went even further, but I didn’t encounter that in history books before. He brought gifts from China to every country he went to and everyone loved him. It was just like “Hey, I’m here with a water-helicarrier and a gift,” and the kings of every country were lilke “holy shit son well here have a giraffe.” There are paintings depicting him leading a giraffe as well. Check him out guys, he’s really cool That is so awesome. Fuck western history. This is the real shit. : بوكسيلوس SPLUS Ma A 83INT 14th century Chinese explorer Zheng He's ship compared to Columbus's. deducecanoe: ourobousfamilia: deducecanoe: chickwithmonkey: potootagath: wingleader: wakeupslaves: the-goddamazon: LOL man. never forget white people did nothing first neither the best, they sleep and eat false propaganda, Ugh, why the shit does that have to turn into a race thing? Why does EVERYTHING have to turn into a race thing? because white people have made sure that everything is about race as proved by the fact that when you say explorer, you think of a bunch of white guys walking the world and discovering it ~exotic wonders~ even though Zheng He travelled through Asia, to the Middle East, and even East Africa. But you’d likely never heard of him before. Same reason you never heard of Ahmad Ibn Fadlan, an Arab traveller who, as early as the 10th century, went to the Volga area for diplomatic reasons. He wrote about it, much as Marco Polo would do later for his own travels, and is one of our sources on what viking were like (and by all accounts, he wrote about them more accurately than western scholars of the same period did) Oh, or Ibn Battuta who travelled throughout Africa long before europeans did, and even went to Europe himself. And that’s just some example of Muslim medieval travel writers Everything is about race because white people keep telling everyone that their race is the only one who every got anything done. i have heard of precisely zero non-european explorers ever in my life, and that fucking sucks. this exhibit is amazing and i need to learn more. That boat is a frickin aircraft carrier comparatively. Holy crap. And no. Never heard a peep. Zhenghe went to over 40 countries in Asia and Africa and probably went even further, but I didn’t encounter that in history books before. He brought gifts from China to every country he went to and everyone loved him. It was just like “Hey, I’m here with a water-helicarrier and a gift,” and the kings of every country were lilke “holy shit son well here have a giraffe.” There are paintings depicting him leading a giraffe as well. Check him out guys, he’s really cool That is so awesome. Fuck western history. This is the real shit.
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theamazingcaptainspider: hayley566: waveringwannabevalkyrie: libertarirynn: hayley566: I think I know why that is. It’s because Wonder Woman is more fantasy-esque and Captain Marvel is a more harsh reality. Let me explain, Wonder Woman grew up in a paradise without men or sexism and just now entered the world of man and just now experienced sexism. Carol grew up in the world of man and grew up within this system. That and Wonder Woman takes place further in the past, making it easier to think “wow, back then was awful but we’re way better now” while several comic fans grew up in the 90’s, making it feel not that long ago. While I love both films, I do feel like Captain Marvel took more risks than Wonder Woman in this sense and I applaud it for that. Miss me with that nonsense. The Carol we see at the start of the film only remembers her life on a planet where men and women were equally trained combatants and as far as we can tell have the respect of their male peers. Yes she was technically born on earth but until the latter half of the film she doesn’t remember that part. Her personality is shaped by the world that she remembers. And how is it “taking risks” to have a character that’s almost completely invulnerable and whose only “flaw” is not realizing how awesome she actually is, even though she was already practically all powerful? How is it taking risks to have a character who basically never learns or grows and is just already a badass who dispatches all enemies with little to no difficulty? Diana had to face defeat and the possibility that her simplistic belief in justice and the existence of war need to be re-examined. She had to work with others and listen to wisdom and advice in order to make informed decisions. She was powerful, but not invulnerable. She was relatable and likable. She didn’t go around being cold and rude to people for no damn reason and ooze pretension with every word she spoke. Y'all really can’t distinguish fiction from reality huh? I call bullshit on “wOrLd oF mEn” bullshit because CM’s writing was fucking trash. Literally every single fucking man she met besides Nick Fury and the Skrull guy was a complete misogynistic caricature, to the point that her FUCKING DAD’S first reaction to her getting in a go-cart accident was not desperate fear/concern for his only daughter, but to…immediately belittle her? No babe that’s not reality, that’s shit ass writers who have no sense of nuance and no sense of developing villains because “UHHHHH HERO IS WOMAN AND MAN HATE WOMAN SO ALL MEN BAD”.Take another example, the boot camp scene where apparently like 8 white guys have nothing to do except stand around and taunt Carol? Except in real life boot camp no one has fucking time to stand around, your ass is constantly being drilled and harassed by your drill instructor, and all of the recruits are being shaped into a unit to WORK TOGETHER, with everyone being treated equally harshly. (Also, I’m supposed to believe that boot camp back in the 80’s/90’s was unisex?) If it was just Carol training on her own, that again begs the question of why an entire group of guys was just staring at her while she was training instead of I don’t know… doing their own training? Relaxing on base during what little leisure time they had? But those questions don’t matter because the writers didn’t give a damn about reality. They only gave a fuck about pushing their bullshit man hating agenda, strawmanning all men, and creating a situation where Carol was nothing but a poor innocent victim of evil cruel men. They literally only existed to victimize Carol and make all of her behavior seem acceptable because “they were mean to her first, so if she decides to nearly break a man’s hand off and steal his motorcycle later, it’s okay!” That’s not fucking realism, that’s hack writing.Captain Marvel is bad, she’s not even remarkable by the standards of female characters, and quite frankly it’s insulting that you ignore and downplay other, far more iconic and well-written female heroes just because Carol plays to your politics. @waveringwannabevalkyrie “world of man” is a term used in the Wonder Woman comics several times to describe the world outside of themiscrya. That’s why I used it here. I would go over how abusive men do exist, just like abusive women do and how I’ve had my own experiences with an abusive father but from your tone, I think if I explain anymore you would make fun of me or something with the whole “aw you have daddy issues and that’s why you like the movie lol”. I’m so hope you’re not that cruel but knowing the internet, you cannot be safe. I just hope you’re not like those kind of people that I met and are willing to at least understand that just because you don’t experience something doesn’t mean it’s the same for everyone else.@libertarirynn as someone who’s seen the movie, I feel like the struggle was more than just “not knowing how awesome she was.” She was being lied to about her entire life for six years and we even see her have a breakdown upon realizing this. We see her sobbing out in a field over finding all this out. The idea of finally being free from the control of others, whether male or female (people seem to forget that minn-erva was also a villain in the movie) in both a physical and emotional sense. Despite Carol having her memories wiped in the beginning, the audience gets flashes of the sexism she faced growing up. While I love both films, I will say that captain marvel spoke to me more than Wonder Woman because of my own personal experiences and if it didn’t do the same for you guys, that’s fine. I just feel that the movie gets misrepresented or misinterpreted a lot and that it is unfair. It sucks that Wonder Woman is used to bash captain marvel despite the different approaches the movies take towards women’s issues. In fact, that behavior has caused me to like Wonder Woman less and less and I really don’t want that to happen. Not only do I start to see the flaws in the film being put on a pedestal, I become more defensive of the one that’s being misrepresented. I still love the Wonder Woman movie but the internet makes it hard to sometimes.I guess what I’m saying is…I wish fans wouldn’t use one to bash the other. I honestly wasn’t trying to bash Wonder Woman or use captain marvel to do so in my last reply. I was just explaining how one is more successful since it tried to be more palatable while the other took more risks in being a feminist film. I hope you both can see that I am not looking for a fight and am just explaining myself. I hope this helped you understand where I’m coming from and that instead of arguing or throwing insults like what usually happens online, this can be handled amicably. Both are good movies.People who hate them or use one to trash the other are secist idiots. End of story Or maybe they just have a different opinion and maybe you need to learn how to spell “sexist” before calling anyone else an idiot.: GOTTA LOVE HOW PEOPLE ARE SO QUICK TO SLAM CAPTIAN MARVEL WHEN EVERYONE WAS CHEERING ON WONDER WOMAN. SO MUCH DOUBLE STANDARDS IN THE COMIC BOOK FANDOM IT'S SICKENING. SUPER-HERO-COonFESSIons theamazingcaptainspider: hayley566: waveringwannabevalkyrie: libertarirynn: hayley566: I think I know why that is. It’s because Wonder Woman is more fantasy-esque and Captain Marvel is a more harsh reality. Let me explain, Wonder Woman grew up in a paradise without men or sexism and just now entered the world of man and just now experienced sexism. Carol grew up in the world of man and grew up within this system. That and Wonder Woman takes place further in the past, making it easier to think “wow, back then was awful but we’re way better now” while several comic fans grew up in the 90’s, making it feel not that long ago. While I love both films, I do feel like Captain Marvel took more risks than Wonder Woman in this sense and I applaud it for that. Miss me with that nonsense. The Carol we see at the start of the film only remembers her life on a planet where men and women were equally trained combatants and as far as we can tell have the respect of their male peers. Yes she was technically born on earth but until the latter half of the film she doesn’t remember that part. Her personality is shaped by the world that she remembers. And how is it “taking risks” to have a character that’s almost completely invulnerable and whose only “flaw” is not realizing how awesome she actually is, even though she was already practically all powerful? How is it taking risks to have a character who basically never learns or grows and is just already a badass who dispatches all enemies with little to no difficulty? Diana had to face defeat and the possibility that her simplistic belief in justice and the existence of war need to be re-examined. She had to work with others and listen to wisdom and advice in order to make informed decisions. She was powerful, but not invulnerable. She was relatable and likable. She didn’t go around being cold and rude to people for no damn reason and ooze pretension with every word she spoke. Y'all really can’t distinguish fiction from reality huh? I call bullshit on “wOrLd oF mEn” bullshit because CM’s writing was fucking trash. Literally every single fucking man she met besides Nick Fury and the Skrull guy was a complete misogynistic caricature, to the point that her FUCKING DAD’S first reaction to her getting in a go-cart accident was not desperate fear/concern for his only daughter, but to…immediately belittle her? No babe that’s not reality, that’s shit ass writers who have no sense of nuance and no sense of developing villains because “UHHHHH HERO IS WOMAN AND MAN HATE WOMAN SO ALL MEN BAD”.Take another example, the boot camp scene where apparently like 8 white guys have nothing to do except stand around and taunt Carol? Except in real life boot camp no one has fucking time to stand around, your ass is constantly being drilled and harassed by your drill instructor, and all of the recruits are being shaped into a unit to WORK TOGETHER, with everyone being treated equally harshly. (Also, I’m supposed to believe that boot camp back in the 80’s/90’s was unisex?) If it was just Carol training on her own, that again begs the question of why an entire group of guys was just staring at her while she was training instead of I don’t know… doing their own training? Relaxing on base during what little leisure time they had? But those questions don’t matter because the writers didn’t give a damn about reality. They only gave a fuck about pushing their bullshit man hating agenda, strawmanning all men, and creating a situation where Carol was nothing but a poor innocent victim of evil cruel men. They literally only existed to victimize Carol and make all of her behavior seem acceptable because “they were mean to her first, so if she decides to nearly break a man’s hand off and steal his motorcycle later, it’s okay!” That’s not fucking realism, that’s hack writing.Captain Marvel is bad, she’s not even remarkable by the standards of female characters, and quite frankly it’s insulting that you ignore and downplay other, far more iconic and well-written female heroes just because Carol plays to your politics. @waveringwannabevalkyrie “world of man” is a term used in the Wonder Woman comics several times to describe the world outside of themiscrya. That’s why I used it here. I would go over how abusive men do exist, just like abusive women do and how I’ve had my own experiences with an abusive father but from your tone, I think if I explain anymore you would make fun of me or something with the whole “aw you have daddy issues and that’s why you like the movie lol”. I’m so hope you’re not that cruel but knowing the internet, you cannot be safe. I just hope you’re not like those kind of people that I met and are willing to at least understand that just because you don’t experience something doesn’t mean it’s the same for everyone else.@libertarirynn as someone who’s seen the movie, I feel like the struggle was more than just “not knowing how awesome she was.” She was being lied to about her entire life for six years and we even see her have a breakdown upon realizing this. We see her sobbing out in a field over finding all this out. The idea of finally being free from the control of others, whether male or female (people seem to forget that minn-erva was also a villain in the movie) in both a physical and emotional sense. Despite Carol having her memories wiped in the beginning, the audience gets flashes of the sexism she faced growing up. While I love both films, I will say that captain marvel spoke to me more than Wonder Woman because of my own personal experiences and if it didn’t do the same for you guys, that’s fine. I just feel that the movie gets misrepresented or misinterpreted a lot and that it is unfair. It sucks that Wonder Woman is used to bash captain marvel despite the different approaches the movies take towards women’s issues. In fact, that behavior has caused me to like Wonder Woman less and less and I really don’t want that to happen. Not only do I start to see the flaws in the film being put on a pedestal, I become more defensive of the one that’s being misrepresented. I still love the Wonder Woman movie but the internet makes it hard to sometimes.I guess what I’m saying is…I wish fans wouldn’t use one to bash the other. I honestly wasn’t trying to bash Wonder Woman or use captain marvel to do so in my last reply. I was just explaining how one is more successful since it tried to be more palatable while the other took more risks in being a feminist film. I hope you both can see that I am not looking for a fight and am just explaining myself. I hope this helped you understand where I’m coming from and that instead of arguing or throwing insults like what usually happens online, this can be handled amicably. Both are good movies.People who hate them or use one to trash the other are secist idiots. End of story Or maybe they just have a different opinion and maybe you need to learn how to spell “sexist” before calling anyone else an idiot.
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joshualunacreations: From an early age, Asian artists are taught to erase ourselves and other people of color. But self-love puts us back in the picture. It’s easy to beat ourselves up for centering/privileging whiteness—which I’ve done in my previous works. But it’s not mutually exclusive to be proud of those works, and still recognize our failings and limitations that we need to work on. It’s not wholly incumbent on creators of color to dismantle racist institutions on our own (the responsibility lies primarily with the white people who built them), but we can and should do our best to push back on these systems whenever possible. (Please don’t repost or edit my work. Reblogs are always appreciated) : ART AFTER LEARNING LEARNING THE MASTERS DEAD WHITE GUYS COMICS WHITE WHIT WHITE WH WHITE WHIT HOW TO DRAW HE MARVEL WAY ART AFTER NLEARNING WHAT ABOUT ME? oS LU joshualunacreations: From an early age, Asian artists are taught to erase ourselves and other people of color. But self-love puts us back in the picture. It’s easy to beat ourselves up for centering/privileging whiteness—which I’ve done in my previous works. But it’s not mutually exclusive to be proud of those works, and still recognize our failings and limitations that we need to work on. It’s not wholly incumbent on creators of color to dismantle racist institutions on our own (the responsibility lies primarily with the white people who built them), but we can and should do our best to push back on these systems whenever possible. (Please don’t repost or edit my work. Reblogs are always appreciated)

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<p><a href="https://charrwastaken.tumblr.com/post/170981224483/libertarirynn-white-people-arent-allowed-to" class="tumblr_blog">charrwastaken</a>:</p> <blockquote><p><a href="https://libertarirynn.tumblr.com/post/170981033654/white-people-arent-allowed-to-talk-about-wakanda" class="tumblr_blog">libertarirynn</a>:</p><blockquote> <p>“White people aren’t allowed to talk about Wakanda or Black Panther!”</p> <p>OK seriously please shut the fuck up. You’re embarrassing yourselves. Black Panther only exists because of two white guys. He is not some integral part of “black culture“. Black people do not even kind of own the right to enjoy Black Panther.</p> </blockquote> <p>Imagine being a long-time fan of the character, having read all the comic books, only for when it gets adapted into a movie, for XxmelaninGurl94xX with an afro, who probably never heard of Black Panther before, to tell you on Twitter that you aren’t allowed to watch it.<br/></p></blockquote> <p>I mean don’t get me wrong I understand the initial excitement. Hell I was excited to see a big budget superhero film with a black ensemble cast. I do believe representation can be really cool and important. But it went from “wow we finally have a black superhero we can celebrate and enjoy together just like all the others“ to “this is just for black people! No one else is allowed to watch it! Wypipo get out reeeeeee!” In record time. Even though that’s kind of what I expected.</p><p>The irony is if they were successful at scaring white people away from watching the movie, the film would bomb and studios would be nervous about another black hero film. These idiots are gonna mess around and play themselves.</p>: LEE THE MOST INSIDIGns ENEMY OF ALL JACK KIRBY WEEKA <p><a href="https://charrwastaken.tumblr.com/post/170981224483/libertarirynn-white-people-arent-allowed-to" class="tumblr_blog">charrwastaken</a>:</p> <blockquote><p><a href="https://libertarirynn.tumblr.com/post/170981033654/white-people-arent-allowed-to-talk-about-wakanda" class="tumblr_blog">libertarirynn</a>:</p><blockquote> <p>“White people aren’t allowed to talk about Wakanda or Black Panther!”</p> <p>OK seriously please shut the fuck up. You’re embarrassing yourselves. Black Panther only exists because of two white guys. He is not some integral part of “black culture“. Black people do not even kind of own the right to enjoy Black Panther.</p> </blockquote> <p>Imagine being a long-time fan of the character, having read all the comic books, only for when it gets adapted into a movie, for XxmelaninGurl94xX with an afro, who probably never heard of Black Panther before, to tell you on Twitter that you aren’t allowed to watch it.<br/></p></blockquote> <p>I mean don’t get me wrong I understand the initial excitement. Hell I was excited to see a big budget superhero film with a black ensemble cast. I do believe representation can be really cool and important. But it went from “wow we finally have a black superhero we can celebrate and enjoy together just like all the others“ to “this is just for black people! No one else is allowed to watch it! Wypipo get out reeeeeee!” In record time. Even though that’s kind of what I expected.</p><p>The irony is if they were successful at scaring white people away from watching the movie, the film would bomb and studios would be nervous about another black hero film. These idiots are gonna mess around and play themselves.</p>
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the-last-hair-bender: cartnsncreal: She should have a statue. Not those confederate MFs. HAPPY BIRTHDAY KATHERINE!!! If anyone wants to know more about her and how she did that, watch Hidden Figures!!! Its one of my favourite movies and its about how she pushed through the racisn and sexism of her coworkers and showed everyone what an amazing person she is without ever demanding fame, only respect. She was a widowed mother of three daughters, and her mother would look after them during the day whilst she worked extra long hours at NASA to get all the work done as quickly as possible. She was so persuasive and demanding of respect (always by using unrefutable logic) that she mamaged to fet into pentagon meetings. Like, wow.You also get to see about her two closest friends who also worked at NASA, one of which (Mary Jackson) was Mary Jackson, the first black student at the University of Virginia. She took night classes at Hampton High School and was the only black person and the only woman in her class, just so that she could finally be an engineer. Every day shed go to NASA, work her ass off trying to engineer those shuttles properly so that no one would die, go home to have dinner with her family, then be off to classes until late at night. So inspiring.The other friend (Dorothy Vaughan) made herself indespensible to NASA so that she and thirty other women could keep their jobs when a computer was built that would replace them in their roles as human computers. She encouraged both of her friends to take every opportunity granted to them, whilst fighting to be the first African-American Supervisor at NASA, as she was already doing the job after they lost their supervisor and no one really pushed replacing her.The movie is both empowering to all women, but most of all WOC, and is incredibly important in how it shows the racism that these women faced on top of the sexism, and how they pushed through because fuck those white guys, am I right? But, yeah, you should really watch it and pay attention to the little end bit where it talks about these three incredible women.: Dr Paul Coxon @paulcoxon Follow Happy 99th birthday Katherine Johnson, NASA mathematician who calculated the trajectory of the Apollo 11 mission vanityfair.com/culture/2016/0 11:36 PM - 24 Aug 2017 71,988 Retweets 170,215 Likes O塞®@@お1.0 Oli Young @oliyoung Follow BY HAND SHE CALCULATED ROCKET TRAJECTORIES BY HAND. BUZZ ALDRIN TRUSTED NO-ONE ELSE, NOT EVEN THEIR COMPUTERS. Dr Paul Coxon paulcoxon Happy 99th birthday Katherine Johnson. NASA mathermatician who calculated the trajectory of the Apollo 11 mission vanityfair.com/culture/2016/... 5:37 AM-25 Aug 2017 216,800 Retweets 486,561 Likes V23 I 60O the-last-hair-bender: cartnsncreal: She should have a statue. Not those confederate MFs. HAPPY BIRTHDAY KATHERINE!!! If anyone wants to know more about her and how she did that, watch Hidden Figures!!! Its one of my favourite movies and its about how she pushed through the racisn and sexism of her coworkers and showed everyone what an amazing person she is without ever demanding fame, only respect. She was a widowed mother of three daughters, and her mother would look after them during the day whilst she worked extra long hours at NASA to get all the work done as quickly as possible. She was so persuasive and demanding of respect (always by using unrefutable logic) that she mamaged to fet into pentagon meetings. Like, wow.You also get to see about her two closest friends who also worked at NASA, one of which (Mary Jackson) was Mary Jackson, the first black student at the University of Virginia. She took night classes at Hampton High School and was the only black person and the only woman in her class, just so that she could finally be an engineer. Every day shed go to NASA, work her ass off trying to engineer those shuttles properly so that no one would die, go home to have dinner with her family, then be off to classes until late at night. So inspiring.The other friend (Dorothy Vaughan) made herself indespensible to NASA so that she and thirty other women could keep their jobs when a computer was built that would replace them in their roles as human computers. She encouraged both of her friends to take every opportunity granted to them, whilst fighting to be the first African-American Supervisor at NASA, as she was already doing the job after they lost their supervisor and no one really pushed replacing her.The movie is both empowering to all women, but most of all WOC, and is incredibly important in how it shows the racism that these women faced on top of the sexism, and how they pushed through because fuck those white guys, am I right? But, yeah, you should really watch it and pay attention to the little end bit where it talks about these three incredible women.
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jurassicbarnes: annoyedmccoy: annoyedmccoy: hailingfrequencies: prozacmorning: punch-a-your-buns: alskgirl: shaydee604: This is what happens when white guys listen to Indian music holy shit whenever I’m feeling sad I just watch this video. I was not expecting that level of choreography or that they would actually know the words.  This is awesome. was not expecting that handstand jfc im crying actual tears this is sheer beauty especially because bc im indian and indian people dance like this as well they truly captured the essence of our culture im laughing so hard I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE TUMBLR KNEW THAT THERE IS A PART 2 as an Indian who appreciates this kind of promotion of Daler Mehndi’s “tunak tunak tun”, i have to reblog this : jurassicbarnes: annoyedmccoy: annoyedmccoy: hailingfrequencies: prozacmorning: punch-a-your-buns: alskgirl: shaydee604: This is what happens when white guys listen to Indian music holy shit whenever I’m feeling sad I just watch this video. I was not expecting that level of choreography or that they would actually know the words.  This is awesome. was not expecting that handstand jfc im crying actual tears this is sheer beauty especially because bc im indian and indian people dance like this as well they truly captured the essence of our culture im laughing so hard I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE TUMBLR KNEW THAT THERE IS A PART 2 as an Indian who appreciates this kind of promotion of Daler Mehndi’s “tunak tunak tun”, i have to reblog this
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I wonder what bits of todays common knowledge will be lost to time: aethersea: teamstopfightingassholes feitanswife: stlin: ella-raene: systlin: beautifultoastdream: stlin: GUYS THEY FIGURED OUT THE ROMAN CONCRETE RECIPE THAT MAKES IT IMMUNE TO SEAWATER http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/mystery-of 2000-year-old-roman-concrete-solved-by-scientists/ar BBDO5V I KNOW RIGHT?!??? I can't help but feel this is one of those things where we had actual documents saying "it was done with this and this", and some old rich white guys looked at it and went "oh mirth, the ancients were so silly They probably wrote this basic stuff down and the actual builders had Secret Techniques we need to Discover For a long time, archeologists didn't know how greek women did their high-piled braids and hair. There was a word that translated to "needle" in the descriptions. They went, "seems like we'll never know." Then a hairdresser took a fucking needle (big needle) and did the fucking thing you do with needles, which is sew - and by sewing the braids into place, she replicated ancient styles. The Egyptians had diagrams of construction steps for their pyramids. Archeologists went "oooh, ancient primitive people, how they do this?" LITERALLY MYTHBUSTERS OR THE OLD DISCOVERY CHANNEL or someone went "what if we did the thing the pictures said they did" AND GUESS FUCKING WHAT. GUESS FUCKING WHAT Also that thing with native Americans saying squirrels taught therm how to get sap for maple syrup, and colonizers going "that's a myth swea Sincerely, if the scientists had to do actual analysis like spectroscopy or whatever, kudos, and no flame. But swear to god, if all these years, we've had the recipes and there was just this fuckin institutional bias against just TRYING THE THING THEY SAID WOULD WORK, HELLFIRE AND DEMENTIA In this case, it was more they had roman writings saying what went into it but figured there was some secret because when they followed roman recipes it never turned out quite right. Because the sources left by Romans always just said to mix with water Because, if you were a Roman??? Obviouslyyou knew that you used seawater for cement. Duh. That's so obvious that they never really bothered specifying that you use seawater to mix it, because it wasn't necessary, everyone knew that. But then the empire fell, other empires rose and fell, time passed, and by the time we were trying to reconstruct the formula the 'mix the dry ingredients with seawater' trick had been forgotten, until chemical analysis finally figured it out again. It's sort of like the land of Punt, a ally of Egypt that's mentioned all the time, but we don't actually know where it was located. Because it isn't written down anywhere. Why would they write it down? It's Punt. Everyone knew where Punt was back then. It'd be ridiculous to waste the ink and space to specify where it was, every child knows about Punt. 3000 years later and we have no damned clue where it was, simply because at the time it was so blindingly obvious that it was never written down. So moral of storv is be specific I was thinking it was stupid that they didn't specify seawater but then I had the thought that we don't specify to use chicken eggs in baking because DUH so we write eggs 2000 years in the future people are going to be making scrambled fish eggs and crying be the ancient recipes make no sense I wonder what bits of todays common knowledge will be lost to time
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